Solving a system of Inequalities

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The discussion revolves around solving a system of inequalities related to a Queuing Networks problem. The inequalities involve variables α and γ, where α is a probability constrained between 0 and 1, and γ is a non-zero rate. Participants are exploring how to determine the maximum value of γ based on the given inequalities.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the implications of the inequalities and how they relate to finding a maximum value for γ. There is an exploration of the regions defined by α and the corresponding constraints on γ. Questions arise regarding the strictness of the inequalities and whether a maximum value can be achieved.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing insights into the nature of the inequalities and questioning the existence of a maximum value for γ under strict constraints. Some participants suggest that the problem may not have a well-defined maximum due to the nature of the inequalities.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of the potential for confusion between strict and non-strict inequalities, which may affect the interpretation of the problem. The original poster expresses difficulty in deriving an explicit expression for γ to use in subsequent parts of the homework.

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Hello, I'm having some trouble with a Queuing Networks question, not the networks but solving a system of inqualities based on the network.

Homework Statement


I have to find the value of α that gives maximum γ, and then use the value. The system is defined by
[tex]5\gamma< 1[/tex]
[tex]20\gamma \alpha<1[/tex]
[tex](60/0.9) \gamma (1-\alpha)<1[/tex]

Now [itex]\alpha[/itex] is a probability and lies in the region [itex]0<\alpha<1[/itex]
While [itex]\gamma[/itex] is a rate and is non-zero.

Homework Equations



The Attempt at a Solution


Now I've got so far as to put the system in this form and to solve through to find that in the region
[tex]0< \alpha ≤ 10/13, that 0 < \gamma < -3/(200(\alpha-1))[/tex]
while in the region
[tex]10/13 < \alpha <1, that 0 < \gamma < 1/(20 \alpha)[/tex]

Thus the maximum value of [itex]\gamma[/itex] lies in the region [itex]\gamma < 13/200[/itex] when [itex]\alpha = 10/13[/itex].

This much is fine, but I need to use an actual value of [itex]\gamma[/itex] in the next part of the question and I can't think how to get a [itex]\gamma =[/itex] expression. Any help would be gratefully appreciated.
 
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timtitan said:
[tex]0< \alpha ≤ 10/13, 0 < \gamma < -3/(200(\alpha-1))[/tex]
while in the region
[tex]10/13 < \alpha <1, 0 < \gamma < 1/(20 \alpha)[/tex]

Thus the maximum value of [itex]\gamma[/itex] lies in the region [itex]\gamma < 13/200[/itex] when [itex]\alpha = 10/13[/itex].
γ = 13/200 satisfies all the constraints;
for α < 10/13, γ < 3/(200(1-α)) < 3/(200(1-10/13)) = 13/200, right?
and for α > 10/13 etc.
 
Yes but isn't that only if [tex]\gamma ≤ 13/200[/tex] whereas in this case [tex]\gamma < 13/200[/tex] so surely [itex]\gamma[/itex] must be infinitesimally less than this value?
 
Ok, now I understand your question properly.
If you take the constraints as strict, there is no maximum value that satisfies them. No matter what value you pick, you can always get a slightly higher one.
 
timtitan said:
Hello, I'm having some trouble with a Queuing Networks question, not the networks but solving a system of inqualities based on the network.

Homework Statement


I have to find the value of α that gives maximum γ, and then use the value. The system is defined by
[tex]5\gamma< 1[/tex]
[tex]20\gamma \alpha<1[/tex]
[tex](60/0.9) \gamma (1-\alpha)<1[/tex]

Now [itex]\alpha[/itex] is a probability and lies in the region [itex]0<\alpha<1[/itex]
While [itex]\gamma[/itex] is a rate and is non-zero.

Homework Equations



The Attempt at a Solution


Now I've got so far as to put the system in this form and to solve through to find that in the region
[tex]0< \alpha ≤ 10/13, that 0 < \gamma < -3/(200(\alpha-1))[/tex]
while in the region
[tex]10/13 < \alpha <1, that 0 < \gamma < 1/(20 \alpha)[/tex]

Thus the maximum value of [itex]\gamma[/itex] lies in the region [itex]\gamma < 13/200[/itex] when [itex]\alpha = 10/13[/itex].

This much is fine, but I need to use an actual value of [itex]\gamma[/itex] in the next part of the question and I can't think how to get a [itex]\gamma =[/itex] expression. Any help would be gratefully appreciated.

In general, optimization problems subject to strict inequality constraints do not have solutions: you may have an "inf" but not a minimum, or a "sup" but not a maximum. For example, what is the solution of the simple problem
minimize x, subject to x > 0?
Answer: the problem is ill-posed, and does not have a solution!

Often, when students are first introduced to such problems they are sloppy and write ">" when they should write "≥" or they write "<" when they should write "≤".

RGV
 

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