Solving a Uniform Rod's Angular and Linear Speed

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The problem involves a uniform rod of mass 1.2 kg and length 1.2 m, which is pivoted and released from a horizontal position. Participants are tasked with determining the angular speed and linear speed of the rod as it passes through the vertical position.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of conservation of energy to relate potential and kinetic energy, with some calculating the moment of inertia and height of the center of mass. There are questions regarding the radius used for calculating linear speed and the reasoning behind it.

Discussion Status

Several participants have shared their calculations and results, with some expressing uncertainty about specific values and assumptions. There is ongoing dialogue about the correct radius for point B and its implications for the linear velocity calculation. Guidance has been offered to clarify the geometric relationships involved.

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Participants are encouraged to draw diagrams to visualize the problem, and there is a focus on ensuring that calculations adhere to significant figures based on the given data.

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Homework Statement


A uniform rod of mass 1.2 kg and length 1.2 m is pivoted in the horizontal position as shown (black point). The rod is at rest and then released. The acceleration due to gravity is g = 9.8 m/s2.

What is the angular speed (in rad/s, but do not include units) of the rod as it passes through the vertical position (when end marked B is at the bottom)?

What is the linear speed of the bottom end of the rod (marked B) when it passes the vertical position?(in m/s, but do not include units)

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



Used conservation of energy, m*g*h=.5*I*w^2. I calculated I to be .252 and used .3 for h. Solving for w, I got 4.83. Then used the formula v=wr and got v=2.898. What am I doing wrong?
 

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postfan said:

Homework Statement


A uniform rod of mass 1.2 kg and length 1.2 m is pivoted in the horizontal position as shown (black point). The rod is at rest and then released. The acceleration due to gravity is g = 9.8 m/s2.

What is the angular speed (in rad/s, but do not include units) of the rod as it passes through the vertical position (when end marked B is at the bottom)?

What is the linear speed of the bottom end of the rod (marked B) when it passes the vertical position?(in m/s, but do not include units)

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



Used conservation of energy, m*g*h=.5*I*w^2. I calculated I to be .252 and used .3 for h. Solving for w, I got 4.83. Then used the formula v=wr and got v=2.898. What am I doing wrong?
Your method looks fine. The numerical value of your moment of inertia looks okay, as does your value for the Δh of the center of mass. Still, something went wrong when you calculated the value of ω. Better check your math there.
 
I found that w=5.2915, and v=3.1749. Is that right?
 
postfan said:
I found that w=5.2915, and v=3.1749. Is that right?

ω looks better. What did you use for the radius of arc for the bottom end of the rod?
 
I used .6 (length of rod /2)
 
postfan said:
I used .6 (length of rod /2)

But B is at 3/4 L distance from the pivot...


ehild
 
Ok is the radius then .45 (length of rod*.75/2)?
 
postfan said:
Ok is the radius then .45 (length of rod*.75/2)?

Why do you divide by 2?


ehild
 
Radius is 1/2 the diameter. The diameter is .9.
 
  • #10
postfan said:
Radius is 1/2 the diameter. The diameter is .9.

You might want to rethink that. The radius extends from the center of the motion (the pivot) out to the point in question (point B).
 
  • #11
OK, so the radius is .9 and the linear velocity is 4.76235, right?
 
  • #12
postfan said:
OK, so is the radius .9?

Are you guessing and looking for confirmation? It would be preferable to describe your logic and conclusion. Why .9m?

Hint:
Why don't you draw a diagram with the rod in the initial and final positions, and sketch in the arc that B describes. Where's the center of the arc? What's its radius?
 
  • #13
postfan said:
OK, so the radius is .9 and the linear velocity is 4.76235, right?

That looks better. Now, reconcile the significant figures in your result with the given data (5 decimal places is certainly not justified :smile:)
 
  • #14
Ok, so is it just 4.8?
 
  • #15
postfan said:
Ok, so is it just 4.8?

4.8 looks fine numerically, but it would be marked WRONG if you don't include the units :wink:
 

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