Solving Air Drag Equation for Beginners

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The discussion centers on solving the air drag equation for solid fuel rockets, specifically the equation for drag force (Fd). The equation presented is Fd(t)= a * ((b-Fd)/c * t)^2, which is identified as a differential equation rather than a simple quadratic equation. Participants emphasize the complexity of the equation due to its recursive nature, where Fd(t) appears within itself, complicating the solution process. The conversation highlights the need for a deeper understanding of differential equations to effectively calculate drag force over time.

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Hey,

I'm having some problems trying to solve the equation for air drag. I'm currently doing a project about solidfuel rockets and air drag is a big deal =)

I used this equation for dragforce (Fd)

Fd(t)= -0,5 * p * A * Cd (((Fm - Fg - Fd) / m ) *t)^2

which is just a lot of parameters so simplified this is:

Fd(t)= a * ((b-Fd)/c * t)^2

I'm not familiar with differential equations at all but my math teacher told me this is one. To bad he couldn't solve it though.

Does anybody know how to solve this so it can be used to calculate dragforce Fd at time t?

Thanks ahead!
Regards from the Netherlands,
Maik
 
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If a, b, c, are just constants, what you wrote is a quadratic equation for Fd, and this is solved with the usual formula.
 
Hello smallphi,

could you explain that showing the math? Because I can't come up with anything to solve an equation involving it's own answer:

Fd(t)= a * (( b-Fd(t) )/c * t)^2

Regards,
Maik
 
You never solved a quadratic equation in your life? I find that hard to believe if you are doing project about solidfuel rockets.

You have to expand the square, treat everything except Fd as constants, treat even t as constant, treat Fd as the unknown variable x, and use the formulas for the roots here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadratic_equation

The article has examples, those will be most helpful to you if you haven't solved a quadratic equation before.
 
I'm sorry we must have misunderstood. If the link you posted is what you mean by quadratic equation then the formula above is no quadratic equation =)

Please note that Fd(t) is to be filled into the function, not Fd as constant or t as constant.

Fd(t)= a * (( b-Fd(t) )/c * t)^2

Fd(t) means Drag at a given time

So within the function Fd(t) is another function. In this case also Fd(t).

This is shurely no quadratic equation to be solved like as in your link.

For example, if you were to write out the Fd(t) within the function above, you'd get:

Fd(t)= a * (( b-(a * (( b-Fd(t) )/c * t)^2 ))/c * t)^2

which obviously also has the funtion of Fd(t) in it. So we could write that out as:

Fd(t)= a * (( b-(a * (( b-(a * (( b-Fd(t) )/c * t)^2) )/c * t)^2 ))/c * t)^2

its a never ending loop.

I hope this explains better as to why this is a differential equation rather than just a quadratic equation.

Kind regards,
Maik
 

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