Solving Algebra Problems: G, x²=2 in 7-adic Numbers

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The discussion revolves around the Galois group of finite fields and the solvability of the equation x²=2 in 7-adic numbers. Participants explore the structure of Galois groups, particularly Gal(\mathbb{F}_{p^{n^2}}/\mathbb{F}_{p^n}) and its relation to intermediate fields, as well as the implications of the Frobenius map in this context.

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  • Participants discuss the correspondence between elements of the Galois group and intermediate fields, questioning how to construct the group G from subgroups. There is also exploration of the solvability of x²=2 in 7-adic numbers, with attempts to establish a sequence of solutions through induction.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights into the structure of Galois groups and the properties of finite fields. Some guidance is offered regarding the Frobenius map and its relevance to understanding the Galois action, while participants are still clarifying their understanding of the relationships between the groups involved.

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There is an emphasis on the properties of finite fields and the specific characteristics of the Frobenius map, as well as the implications of working within the framework of 7-adic numbers. Participants are navigating through definitions and relationships without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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1. Find the group

[tex]G = Gal(\mathbb{F}_{p^{n^2}}/\mathbb{F}_{p^n})[/tex]


There is a 1-1 correspondence between elements of this group, and intermediate fields. An intermediate field is a finite field of order m, where pn | m | p. The m that satisfy this are pk for each k in {n, n+1, ..., n²-1, n²}. So the group in question has order n²-n+1. I'm very iffy on this material, so where should I go from here? Do I find

[tex]Gal(\mathbb{F}_{p^{k+1}}/\mathbb{F}_{p^k})[/tex]

for n < k < n², and then G will be somehow made up of these Galois groups?

2. Is x²=2 solvable in 7-adic numbers?

For all k, x² = 2 (mod 7k) has two solutions, since 7k is congruent to either 1 or 7 (mod 8), depending on whether k is prime. Moreover, for each k, x² = 2 (mod 7k) has two distinct solutions, y and -y (which are incongruent since all powers of 7 are odd), and if j < k, then y (mod 7j) and -y (mod 7j) are solutions to x² = 2 (mod 7j).

So if y1 is a solution to x² = (mod 7), then there exists y2 such that y2 = y1 (mod 7) and y2² = 2 (mod 7²). Inductively, if yi is a solution to x² = (mod 7i), then there exists yi+1 such that yi+1 = yi (mod 7i) and yi+1² = 2 (mod 7i+1). Likewise, starting with -y1 I can get a different sequence. The two sequences should give rise to 7-adic numbers y and -y which satisfy y² = 2 as 7-adic numbers, right?
 
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You know what the Frobenius morphism/map is?
 
I vaguely remember it being [itex]a \mapsto a^n[/itex], but I can't remember what the domain or codomain are supposed to be, but I know it has something to do with finite fields.
 
i very strongly urge you to find out about the frobenius p'th power map since that tells you what the galois action is.

of course this is unnecessary: every finite field is multiplicatively generated by one element (the mult group is cyclic) which gives the answer, and explains your observation about intermediate fields.

or thirdly note that (except in characteristic 2) F_q^2 is gotten by adding in a the roots of x^(q-1) +1 to F_q (and so on) so that you can expressly write out that F_q^d is the splitting field over F_q of x^{q^d-1}+1these are essentially all the same observation, and are just extensions of the fermat's little theorem: that poly has no roots over F_q since every element in F_q to the power q-1 is 1 (note q=/=2^r here, for q=2 use x^2+x+1)
 
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Okay, the Galois group I'm looking for was denoted G in my first post, but let's denote it H now. It is a subgroup of the Galois group [itex]Gal(\mathbb{F}_{p^{n^2}}/\mathbb{F}_p)[/itex], and I will denote this group G. H is the subgroup of G that fixes elements of [itex]\mathbb{F}_{p^n}[/itex]. G is cyclic of order n² generated by [itex]\sigma[/itex], the Frobenius pth power map. The group [itex]Gal(\mathbb{F}_{p^n}/\mathbb{F}_p)[/itex] is cyclic of order n, generated again by [itex]\sigma[/itex]. So to figure out H, we want to see which powers of [itex]\sigma[/itex] as a generator of G fix [itex]\mathbb{F}_{p^n}[/itex]. Clearly, it is the nth powers, and so

[tex]H = \{\sigma ^n,\, \sigma ^{2n},\, \dots ,\, \sigma ^{n^2} = 1\} = \langle \sigma ^n \rangle \cong \mathbb{Z}/n\mathbb{Z}[/tex]

Correct?
 
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