Solving Algebraic Inequality with $n$ Positive Real Numbers

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The discussion revolves around proving the inequality involving $n$ positive real numbers: $$\frac{x_1^2}{x_2}+\frac{x_2^2}{x_3}+ ... + \frac{x_{n-1}^2}{x_n}+\frac{x_n^2}{x_1} \geq x_1+x_2+...+x_n$$. Participants explore various approaches to demonstrate this inequality, including algebraic manipulations and the application of the Cauchy–Schwarz inequality.

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  • One participant presents the inequality and suggests using the Cauchy–Schwarz inequality with specific vectors to derive the result.
  • Another participant expresses agreement with the initial solution, indicating it aligns with their own thoughts.
  • A different participant offers an alternative proof involving a quadratic expression in terms of a variable $X$, leading to a conclusion that the inequality holds under certain conditions.
  • Similar to the previous point, another participant reiterates the alternative proof with slight variations in presentation, emphasizing the equivalence of the derived expressions.

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Participants generally agree on the validity of the approaches presented, but multiple competing methods are discussed without a clear consensus on which is the most effective or preferred.

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The proofs rely on specific algebraic manipulations and assumptions about the positivity of the variables involved. The discussions do not resolve the nuances of each proof's applicability or the conditions under which they hold.

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Given $n$ positive real numbers: $x_1,x_2,...,x_n$.

Show, that:

\[\frac{x_1^2}{x_2}+\frac{x_2^2}{x_3}+ ... + \frac{x_{n-1}^2}{x_n}+\frac{x_n^2}{x_1} \geq x_1+x_2+...+x_n\]
 
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lfdahl said:
Given $n$ positive real numbers: $x_1,x_2,...,x_n$.

Show, that:

\[\frac{x_1^2}{x_2}+\frac{x_2^2}{x_3}+ ... + \frac{x_{n-1}^2}{x_n}+\frac{x_n^2}{x_1} \geq x_1+x_2+...+x_n\]
[sp]Apply the Cauchy–Schwarz inequality $|\mathbf{x.y}|^2 \leqslant \|\mathbf{x}\|^2\|\mathbf{y}\|^2$ to the vectors $$\mathbf{x} = \left(\frac{x_1}{\sqrt{x_2}},\frac{x_2}{\sqrt{x_3}},\ldots,\frac{x_{n-1}}{\sqrt{x_n}},\frac{x_n}{\sqrt{x_1}}\right), \ \mathbf{y} = \left(\sqrt{x_2},\sqrt{x_3},\ldots,\sqrt{x_n},\sqrt{x_1}\right),$$ getting $$(x_1+x_2+\ldots+x_n)^2 \leqslant \left(\frac{x_1^2}{x_2}+\frac{x_2^2}{x_3}+ \ldots + \frac{x_{n-1}^2}{x_n}+\frac{x_n^2}{x_1}\right)\left(x_2+x_3 + \ldots + x_n+x_1\right).$$ Then divide both sides by $x_1+x_2+\ldots+x_n$ to get the result.[/sp]
 
Good job, Opalg! Thankyou for your participation!

Your solution was exactly, what I had in mind!
 
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An alternative solution can be found here:

By the AM-GM inequality, we have:

\[\frac{x_i^2}{x_{i+1}}+x_{i+1} \geq 2x_i \\\\ \Rightarrow \frac{x_1^2}{x_2}+\frac{x_2^2}{x_3}+...+\frac{x_n^2}{x_1}+x_1+x_2+...+x_n \geq 2\left ( x_1+x_2+...+x_n \right )\\\\ \Rightarrow \frac{x_1^2}{x_2}+\frac{x_2^2}{x_3}+...+\frac{x_n^2}{x_1} \geq x_1+x_2+...+x_n\]
 
We have the following high school proof

[sp]Given, $$x_1,x_2,...x_n$$ positive real Nos we have:
$$(\frac{x_1}{\sqrt x_2}X+\sqrt x_2)^2+...(\frac{x_{n-1}}{\sqrt x_n}+\sqrt x_n)^2+(\frac{x_n}{\sqrt x_1}+\sqrt x_1)^2\geq 0$$
,which is true for all n and for all X............1
..........OR...........
$$(\frac{{x_1}^2}{x_2}+...\frac{x_{n-1}^2}{x_n}+\frac{{x_n}^2}{x_1})X^2+2(x_1+x_2+...x_n)X+(x_1+x_2+...x_n)\geq 0$$

Put $$A=(\frac{{x_1}^2}{x_2}+...\frac{x_{n-1}^2}{x_n}+\frac{{x_n}^2}{x_1})$$
$$B= x_1+x_2+...x_n $$ and (1) becomes:

$$AX^2+2BX+B\geq 0$$............(2)
.........OR.......
$$A(X+\frac{B}{A})^2+\frac{AB-B^2}{A}\geq 0$$...............3

Now since its equivalent (1) is true for all X ,hence (3) will be true for all X and particularly for $$X=-\frac{B}{A}$$.

And (3) becomes :

$$AB-B^2\geq 0$$

.........OR.........

$$A\geq B$$

Which is the desired inequality

Note : the same type of proof i suggested for the thread "high school inequality 3" but in a kind of backwards working .There the initial inequality should be:

$$(a_1X+b_1)^2+...(a_nX+b_1)^2\geq 0$$ [/sp]
 
solakis said:
We have the following high school proof

[sp]Given, $$x_1,x_2,...x_n$$ positive real Nos we have:
$$(\frac{x_1}{\sqrt x_2}X+\sqrt x_2)^2+...(\frac{x_{n-1}}{\sqrt x_n}+\sqrt x_n)^2+(\frac{x_n}{\sqrt x_1}+\sqrt x_1)^2\geq 0$$
,which is true for all n and for all X............1
..........OR...........
$$(\frac{{x_1}^2}{x_2}+...\frac{x_{n-1}^2}{x_n}+\frac{{x_n}^2}{x_1})X^2+2(x_1+x_2+...x_n)X+(x_1+x_2+...x_n)\geq 0$$

Put $$A=(\frac{{x_1}^2}{x_2}+...\frac{x_{n-1}^2}{x_n}+\frac{{x_n}^2}{x_1})$$
$$B= x_1+x_2+...x_n $$ and (1) becomes:

$$AX^2+2BX+B\geq 0$$............(2)
.........OR.......
$$A(X+\frac{B}{A})^2+\frac{AB-B^2}{A}\geq 0$$...............3

Now since its equivalent (1) is true for all X ,hence (3) will be true for all X and particularly for $$X=-\frac{B}{A}$$.

And (3) becomes :

$$AB-B^2\geq 0$$

.........OR.........

$$A\geq B$$

Which is the desired inequality

Note : the same type of proof i suggested for the thread "high school inequality 3" but in a kind of backwards working .There the initial inequality should be:

$$(a_1X+b_1)^2+...(a_nX+b_1)^2\geq 0$$ [/sp]
Well done, solakis! Thankyou for your participation!
 

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