Solving an equation, I have an incorrect solution

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The discussion revolves around solving the equation \(\sqrt{3x + 10} = 2 + \sqrt{x+4}\). The original poster expresses confusion over arriving at two roots, with only one being valid upon substitution back into the original equation.

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  • Participants discuss the implications of squaring both sides of the equation, noting that this can introduce extraneous solutions. There is also mention of the need to check solutions against the original equation to identify valid roots.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some offering insights into the nature of extraneous solutions and the importance of verifying results. There is recognition of the original poster's algebraic steps, but also a caution about potential pitfalls in the squaring process.

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Some participants reference the concept of extraneous solutions and suggest that the original poster may have inadvertently introduced additional solutions through their manipulations. There is a mention of external resources for further clarification on the topic.

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I have been attempting to solve the equation, I have arrived at two roots however only one of them seems to be correct. If possible could you spot a possible mistake I have made.

## \sqrt{3x + 10} =2 + \sqrt{x+4}##

##3x + 10=4+4\sqrt{x+4}+x+4##

##0.5x+0.5=\sqrt{x+4}##

##0.25x^2+0.5x+0.25=x+4##

##x^2+2x+1=4x+16##

##x^2-2x-15=0##

##(x-5)(x+3)=0##

##x=5## and ##x=-3##

However when you put the results back into the equation only x=5 is true
Thanks for any help
 
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In your first step, you squared both sides of an equation. When this is done, you may create an equation that has more solutions than the original equation. ( For example, consider the equation y = 5. If we square both sides to obtain y^2 = 25 the second equation has solutions y = 5 and y = -5.)

If you have a very sophisticated mathematical mind and some verbal skills, you can write notes in your work indicating the possible places where extra solutions may be introduced and how to intend to eliminate them. Most people don't use that approach. They simply crank out the problem and check whether the final solutions that are produced actually work in the original equation. That is what you did. The fact that not all solutions work doesn't mean you made any error in the algebraic manipulations.
 
Alevelman said:
I have been attempting to solve the equation, I have arrived at two roots however only one of them seems to be correct. If possible could you spot a possible mistake I have made.

## \sqrt{3x + 10} =2 + \sqrt{x+4}##

##3x + 10=4+4\sqrt{x+4}+x+4##

##0.5x+0.5=\sqrt{x+4}##

##0.25x^2+0.5x+0.25=x+4##

##x^2+2x+1=4x+16##

##x^2-2x-15=0##

##(x-5)(x+3)=0##

##x=5## and ##x=-3##

However when you put the results back into the equation only x=5 is true
Thanks for any help

There are sometimes roots which do not satisfy the original equation these are called 'extraneous solutions'. Khan academy has videos explaining this far better than I ever could.

Edit: I read equation wrong :(
 
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Marcus27 said:
It seems in step 1 you squared (2 + (x + 4)^1/2)) rather than squaring each term separately.

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I hope you realize that he had to square the whole expression ##2 + \sqrt{x+4}##, rather than squaring each term separately. Doing the latter would have been wrong!

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There are sometimes roots which do not satisfy the original equation these are called 'extraneous solutions'. Khan academy has videos explaining this far better than I ever could.
 
Yeah I realized after I posted, I edited my post so I did not to confuse anybody, I still have lots of mathematics to learn myself but I thought I could help this guy but made a mistake myself o:)
 
Alevelman said:
I have been attempting to solve the equation, I have arrived at two roots however only one of them seems to be correct. If possible could you spot a possible mistake I have made.

## \sqrt{3x + 10} =2 + \sqrt{x+4}##
...

##0.25x^2+0.5x+0.25=x+4##
...

##x=5## and ##x=-3##

However when you put the results back into the equation only x=5 is true
Thanks for any help
As Marcus points out, x = -3 is an "extraneous solution".

It is a solution to the equation $$ \sqrt{3x + 10} =2 - \sqrt{x+4}\ \ .$$

If you follow the same set of steps with this equation that you did with yours, you will eventually arrive the equation: $$0.25x^2+0.5x+0.25=x+4\ \ $$
just as you did with your equation.
 

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