Solving Bernoulli's ODE with y' + p(x)y=q(x)y^n

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The discussion revolves around solving a Bernoulli's ordinary differential equation (ODE) of the form y' + p(x)y = q(x)y^n. Participants are exploring the nature of the equation and the methods applicable for finding a solution.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the applicability of Bernoulli's equation and consider whether the equation can be transformed into a separable form. There are attempts to clarify the conditions under which the equation can be solved using different methods.

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Some participants express confidence in their approaches, while others suggest that the equation may not be separable. There is an acknowledgment of differing interpretations regarding the methods to apply, with some guidance provided on transformation techniques.

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Participants note the importance of constants c and n in determining the method of solution. There is a reference to a specific source for the differential equation, indicating a context for the problem being discussed.

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Homework Statement


[tex]\frac{dy}{dx}= - \frac{c}{n} y^{n}[/tex]


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[tex]y' + p(x)y=q(x) y^n[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution


im strictly speaking able to do it , i just wanted to kno whether I am on the right track using bernoulli's equation, not that i can see any other methods!
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If c and n are constants then you can just divide by yn and you'd have a separable ODE
 
thanks , i try that ( c and n are constants). seems less involving if not actually suggesting i was on the wrong track
 
rock.freak667 said:
If c and n are constants then you can just divide by yn and you'd have a separable ODE

Mechdude said:
thanks , i try that ( c and n are constants). seems less involving if not actually suggesting i was on the wrong track

I don't think you will find it to be separable. Bernoulli's method is the way to go. Dividing by yn puts it in the form

y(-n)y' +p(x)y(1-n)= q(x)

and the change variable v = y(1-n) transforms it into a linear first order equation which can be done with an integrating factor.

[edit] Correction -- your specific equation is indeed separable, it is the general Bernoulli equation that isn't.
 
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LCKurtz said:
I don't think you will find it to be separable. Bernoulli's method is the way to go. Dividing by yn puts it in the form

y(-n)y' +p(x)y(1-n)= q(x)

and the change variable v = y(1-n) transforms it into a linear first order equation which can be done with an integrating factor.

[edit] Correction -- your specific equation is indeed separable, it is the general Bernoulli equation that isn't.

i did find it to be separable and got an expression for a problem I am working on that agrees with the solution provided, so I am confident about that . thanks though.

here's the source of the d.e. for the curious :
https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?p=2587065#post2587065
 

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