Solving Binary Star Problems: Tips & Strategies

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The discussion revolves around solving binary star problems, specifically focusing on concepts related to orbital mechanics and the dynamics of binary systems. Participants are exploring the relationships between orbital period, velocity, and the geometry of the system.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to understand how to derive the orbital velocity from the observed maximum velocity shift and questions the relationship between the radii of the stars and the semi-major axis. They express confusion about the angle of inclination and the overall setup of the binary system.

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Some participants have provided guidance on considering the masses of the stars for calculating orbital velocity and clarified the distinction between the semi-major axis of each star and the distance between the stars. There is acknowledgment of the need for Kepler's third law in the context of the problem.

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The original poster mentions specific values and relationships from their notes, indicating a reliance on provided equations and definitions, but expresses uncertainty about their application in this scenario.

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Homework Equations


For circular orbit, r = Pv / 2 pi , Where P = orbital period and v=orbital velocity

r' = r sini , where i is unknown angle to plane of sky.

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I'm really not getting these binary problems at all.

I would start by finding v, but how is this from them "the observed maximum velocity shift of 26.1 km/s" ?
Then I would use r = Pv / 2 pi , and the separation would just be 2r as they are identical stars, is this right?
I don't know where to start with the angle of inclination part.

Also, in my notes, talking about binaries in general, it says that r1 + r2 = a
I think that's r1= radius of star 1, r2 = radius of star 2, a = true semi-major orbital axis, but I don't understand this, how could the 2 radii total the semi-major axis? Surely it would be 2a if anything?
And talking about the semi-major axis, does the system actually have a semi-major axis? I thought there was just one for each star.

Really lost here, any help would be appreicated, thanks!
 

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You'll have to consider the masses of the stars to get the orbital velocity. The period and the radial velocity alone are not sufficient.

You can consider the semi-major axis of each star, or the semi-major axis of the distance between the stars. But for a circular orbit with identical masses, you can just take the radius of the circle as semi-major axis of each star. This is NOT the distance between the stars!
 
Try using Kepler's third law to find ##a##.
 
Thanks guys, it was Kepler's 3rd that I needed.
 

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