Solving Buoyancy & Upthrust: Understand C & D

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The discussion revolves around the concept of buoyancy and upthrust as it relates to a solid completely immersed in a liquid. Participants are examining the effects of depth, orientation, and partial immersion on the forces exerted by the liquid on the solid.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants are questioning the validity of various options regarding how the upthrust changes with depth and orientation. There is an exploration of the relationship between pressure, density, and buoyancy, as well as a discussion on the compressibility of liquids compared to solids.

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The discussion is active with participants exploring different interpretations of buoyancy principles. Some guidance has been offered regarding the nature of buoyancy forces, and there is a recognition of the complexities involved in the relationship between liquid and solid densities.

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Participants are considering various liquid-solid pairs and the implications of their properties on buoyancy, noting that the problem statement does not impose specific constraints on densities.

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Homework Statement


A solid is completely immersed in a liquid. The force exerted by the liquid on the solid will(more than one right)
(a)increase if it is pushed deeper inside the liquid.
(b)change if its orientation is changed
(c)decrease if it is taken partially out of the liquid
(d)be in the vertically upward direction

Homework Equations



U=Vdlg

The Attempt at a Solution


Option C and D are true i got that, and the answers also say that the answer is C and D.
But why is Option A not true, the upthrust does increase when the solid is pushed down, right??
I just want to be sure. Thank you in advance
 
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Suraj M said:
But why is Option A not true, the upthrust does increase when the solid is pushed down, right??
How do you propose that the force should increase?
 
With depth there would be increase in pressure, as liquids have a higher compressibility factor than solids. Hence the density of the liquid would increase at a higher rate as compared to the solid. So the upthrust should increase, right?
 
Suraj M said:
liquids have a higher compressibility factor than solids
Is this statement true for all possible liquid-solid pairs?
 
I'm not sure. By you're tone, i guess it isn't true for all.
Could you give an example of a pair where this wouldn't be true‽
 
Mercury ( ~ 3 ppm/atm) and let's say hard rubber.
 
wouldn't rubber float in mercury?
 
Suraj M said:
A solid is completely immersed in a liquid.
You could be using rubber coated uranium bricks; you're not constrained by liquid and solid densities in any way in the problem statement, you're merely calculating net buoyancy forces.
 
oh ok. thank you!
 
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