Solving Diff Eq Tired Spring Problem: Find Min k for y(x) Cross y=0

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The discussion focuses on determining the minimum positive value of the constant k in the differential equation x²y'' + Ky = 0, with boundary conditions y(1) = 0 and y'(1) = 1. Participants suggest using a change of variable t = ln(x) to transform the equation into one with constant coefficients. The trial solution y = x^m is recommended to derive the characteristic equation, which may yield complex solutions. The conversation emphasizes the importance of correctly applying the chain rule to facilitate the transformation and analyze the solutions effectively.

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Homework Statement


Determine the minimum positive value of the constant k needed to ensure that the function y(x) obeying

x^2 y'' + K y = 0, y(1) = 0, y'(1)=1

will not simply keep on increasing toward large x but will instead return to cross y=o ocassionally

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So far I've tried doing a change of variable and trnasform t= ln(X). The idea is that I should get a constant coefficient equation but do not know how to get there yet.
I have tried using the chain rule twice to get from d^2y/dx^2 to d^2y/dt^2 but as said I do not seem to make any progress. Any ideas please?
 
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Use the trial solution [tex]y=x^m[/tex]
 
That's an "Euler type" equation. As rock.freak667 said, you can reduce to the "characteristic equation" by trying y= xm. However, I suspect that equation will have complex solutions and it's not clear how to reduce that to real solutions to the d.e.

Yes, you can always reduce an "Euler type" equation to a constant coefficients equation by the substitution t= ln(x). You use the chain rule to change:
[tex]\frac{dy}{dx}= \frac{dy}{dt}\frac{dt}{dx}= \frac{1}{t}\frac{dy}{dt}[/tex]
[tex]\frac{d^2y}{dx^2}= \frac{d }{dx}\left(\frac{1}{t}\frac{dy}{dt}\right)[/tex]
[tex]= \frac{1}{t}\frac{d }{dt}\left(\frac{1}{t}\frac{dy}{dt}\right)[/tex]
In fact, the characteristic equation for the constant coefficients equation you get this way is exactly the same as the equation you get by trying y= xm but now you know that t= ln(x) so you can see what to do with complex solutions- exactly what you would do for a constant coefficients equation and then replace t by ln(x).
 
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