Solving differential equations

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The discussion revolves around solving a differential equation of the form (y^15)x(dy/dx)=1+x, with an initial condition y(1)=3, and the goal of expressing y^16 in terms of x.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss transforming the equation and integrating both sides. There are attempts to isolate the constant C using the initial condition. Some participants question the correctness of the expressions derived for y and C.

Discussion Status

There is ongoing exploration of the integration process and the proper handling of constants. Some participants provide corrections and alternative perspectives on the expressions for y and C, indicating a productive exchange of ideas without reaching a consensus.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of correctly applying logarithmic properties and the implications of the initial condition on the constants involved. There is also mention of the specific requirement to express y^16 in terms of x, which influences the direction of the discussion.

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Homework Statement



solve

(y^15)x(dy/dx)=1+x

using the initial condition y(1)=3

express y^16 in terms of x

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



i change the equation to the form

y^15 dy = (1+x)/x dx
integrating both sides i got

y^16/16=x+lnx+C

To solve for C i changed this to

y=(16(x+lnx))^(1/16)+C

plugging in y=3 and x=1 i get

3=1.189+C

so C=1.81079

So my answer was y^16= 16(x+lnx)+1.81079

this is incorrect, can anyone please explain what i may be doing wrong?
 
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hahaha158 said:

Homework Statement



solve

(y^15)x(dy/dx)=1+x

using the initial condition y(1)=3

express y^16 in terms of x

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



i change the equation to the form

y^15 dy = (1+x)/x dx
integrating both sides i got

y^16/16=x+lnx+C


Correct so far, except you shoiuld write ln(|x|).

hahaha158 said:
To solve for C i changed this to

y=(16(x+lnx))^(1/16)+C

that is wrong. It should be y=[16(x+ln(x)+C)]1/16,
but it has no sense. Just substitute x=1 and y=3 in the original equation
y^16/16=x+lnx+C and isolate C.

ehild
 
ehild said:
Correct so far, except you shoiuld write ln(|x|).



that is wrong. It should be y=[16(x+ln(x)+C)]1/16,
but it has no sense. Just substitute x=1 and y=3 in the original equation
y^16/16=x+lnx+C and isolate C.

ehild

thank you
 
hahaha158 said:

Homework Statement



solve

(y^15)x(dy/dx)=1+x

using the initial condition y(1)=3

express y^16 in terms of x

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



i change the equation to the form

y^15 dy = (1+x)/x dx
integrating both sides i got

y^16/16=x+lnx+C

To solve for C i changed this to

y=(16(x+lnx))^(1/16)+C
I see know reason to solve for y (especially since you were asked to "express y^16 in terms of x"). From
y^16/16= x+ ln|x|+ C, setting x= 1, y= 3 gives
3^16/16= 2690420.0625= 1+ C so that C= 2690419.0625

plugging in y=3 and x=1 i get

3=1.189+C

so C=1.81079

So my answer was y^16= 16(x+lnx)+1.81079

this is incorrect, can anyone please explain what i may be doing wrong?
 

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