Solving Differential Problem: Constant Power, Mass Acceleration

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving an automobile's acceleration under constant power, exploring the relationships between speed, acceleration, and displacement as functions of time.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to derive expressions for speed, acceleration, and displacement but expresses confusion about how to proceed with the derivation. Some participants suggest using Newton's second law and eliminating variables to express power in terms of force and velocity.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing guidance on how to approach the derivation. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationships between the variables, but no consensus has been reached on the correct method or solution.

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The original poster indicates a lack of confidence in their understanding of the problem, which may affect their ability to progress. The discussion includes attempts to clarify the application of Newton's second law and the implications of constant power on the system.

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Homework Statement



An automobile with mass m accelerates starting from rest, while the engine supplies constant power P.

a) Show that the speed is given as a function of time by v= (2Pt/m)^(1/2)

b) Show that the acceleration is given as a function of time by a= (P/2mt)^(1/2)

c) Show that the displacement is given as a function of time by x-x0= (8P/9m)^(1/2)t^(3/2)


The Attempt at a Solution



I know that this isn't a difficult question but I always seem to get confused. For a) I started trying to find the derivative v= (1/2)(2P/m) ^ (-1/2)...but I don;t know how to contiue by showing that it's a function of time. If someone could just help me with a I'm sure i'll be fine for b) and c)

Thanks!
 
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You're trying to start the problem from the thing you're supposed to show. It isn't going to work.

One of the handful of expressions for power is P=Fv. You know that P is constant, which means that F and v must be functions of time. Since you want only one dependent variable (namely, v), here is your first subtask: Eliminate the variable F by expressing it in terms of mass and velocity. You should be able to do this using Newton's second law. Do you see what I mean?
 
I don't really understand what you mean, so Newton's second law ( F= Ma) In the place of P (for part a))Iinput FV then in the place of F I input Ma so it looks like V= (2ma(t)/m)^ (1/2) so the m's cancel out right? then what do I do?
 
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I don't really understand what you mean, so Newton's second law ( F= Ma) In the place of P (for part a))

No, you're going to put it in place of F. And what is a, in terms of v?

so it looks like V= (2ma(t)/m)^ (1/2) so the m's cancel out right?

You won't get off that easy. You will end up with dv/dt in your equation, and you will have to integrate it to find v(t).
 

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