Solving Electrodynamics: Showing E Obeys Maxwell's Equations

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The discussion revolves around demonstrating that a given electric field expression adheres to Maxwell's equations in a vacuum, specifically focusing on the electric field's behavior and its relationship with the magnetic field.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore the divergence of the electric field and its implications for Maxwell's first equation, with some expressing confusion about the absence of certain terms. Others discuss the calculation of the curl of the electric field and its relation to the magnetic field, questioning the assumptions made in their calculations.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, sharing their calculations and seeking clarification on specific steps. Some have suggested that the electric field may only satisfy Maxwell's equations under certain conditions related to the magnetic field, while others are attempting to derive the magnetic field associated with the given electric field.

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There is an emphasis on the need for a particular magnetic field to satisfy all four of Maxwell's equations, and participants are grappling with the implications of their calculations, particularly regarding the divergence of the magnetic field and the relationships between the electric and magnetic fields.

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Struggling with this module, if someone could get me started in the right direction that'd be great!

An electric field is given by

E(r,theta,phi,t)=A(sin theta/r)(cos(kr-wt)-(1/kr)sin(kr-wt)) in phi direction

Show that E obeys all 4 of Maxwells equations in vacuum (no free charges and no free currents)

for Maxwells 1st eqn I said that there is only a phi component in the electric field so the divergence is d/d(phi) of E. As there is no phi term in the equation this goes to zero. Is this correct? If so how do I continue with Maxwells other equations? Any help wiould be greatly appreciated!
 
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You can simply write down the equations using the [itex]\nabla[/itex] operator as you are used to. Then to do the explicit calculation, you can copy the identities from this bookmark-worthy Wikipedia page.
 


ok so for maxwells 1st eqn the div of E is just the phi component and gives 1/(r sin theta)d/d phi(E). Again d/d phi(E) is zero so the whole eqn goes to zero. Is this right? Also I'm not sure how to get maxwells 2nd equation as i have no term for B and when trying to calculate the 3rd eqn i get zero again as there is no phi term in E. Very confused alltogether!??
 


That electric field only obey all 4 Maxwell equations for a particular associated magnetic field...it's up to you to find what that field is :wink:...You shouldn't be getting zero for [itex]\mathbf{\nabla}\times\textbf{E}[/itex]...if you show us your calculation, we should be able to spot your error
 


gabbagabbahey said:
That electric field only obey all 4 Maxwell equations for a particular associated magnetic field...it's up to you to find what that field is :wink:

Hint: there is a dB/dt somewhere in the equations.
 


Ok now I am now getting a fairly long formula for the curl of E. I have tried letting that equal to -dB/dt (Maxwells 3rd eqn) and integrating over time to get an expression for -B. However, when i then get the div of B, nearly everything cancels but not quite everything, so i do not get zero (Maxwells 2nd eqn) (unless, this is, cos^2(theta)=2cos(theta)sin(theta), which I'm pretty sure it doesn't!). This is quite a long and tedious calculation and I am still not sure I am going down the right path. Is there any more advice or hints anyone can give!?? Again, any help would be hugely appreciated.
 


I suppose my main problem is finding the particular magnetic field, B, associated with the electric field given by E.
 


maverik said:
Ok now I am now getting a fairly long formula for the curl of E. I have tried letting that equal to -dB/dt (Maxwells 3rd eqn) and integrating over time to get an expression for -B. However, when i then get the div of B, nearly everything cancels but not quite everything, so i do not get zero (Maxwells 2nd eqn) (unless, this is, cos^2(theta)=2cos(theta)sin(theta), which I'm pretty sure it doesn't!). This is quite a long and tedious calculation and I am still not sure I am going down the right path. Is there any more advice or hints anyone can give!?? Again, any help would be hugely appreciated.

As long and tedious as it might be, the only way we 'll be able to see where you are going wrong is if you post your calculations...let's start with your result for [itex]\mathbf{\nabla}\times\textbf{E}[/itex]...
 

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