Maxwell's Eqns- HELP - Spherical EM wave

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The problem involves analyzing the electric field of a spherical electromagnetic wave in vacuum, expressed in a specific mathematical form. The task is to demonstrate consistency with Maxwell's equations and to find the associated magnetic field.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of the curl of the electric field and its implications. There are questions regarding the directionality of the electric field and the interpretation of the phi unit vector. Some participants express uncertainty about the method used for calculating the curl in spherical coordinates.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights and suggestions for approaching the problem. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity of the curl calculation, and some guidance is offered regarding the integration process. Multiple interpretations of the mathematical expressions are being explored.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential confusion regarding the application of determinant methods in spherical coordinates and the treatment of variables during integration. There is a reference to a specific textbook for clarification on the curl expression.

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Homework Statement



The electric field of a spherical electromagnetic wave in vacuum can be written in the form of:

E(r,θ,phi)= A(sin(θ)/r)*[cos(kr-ωt)-(1/kr)sin(kr-ωt)]phi

Show that E is consistent with ALL of Maxwell's equations in vacuum and find the associated magnetic field.

Homework Equations



Maxwell's Equations


The Attempt at a Solution



I calculated Curl E, which came out as

(Acos(θ)/r^2sin(phi))*(sin(kr-ωt)/ω) +(2Asin(theta)/r^2)*(sin(kr-ωt)/ω) -(kAsin(θ)/r)*(sin(kr-ωt)/ω)+(Asin(θ)/kr^3)*(cos(kr-ωt)/ω)...

I then tried to take the integral of this with respect to t to find B. although I ran into trouble, unknowing what to do with theta or r...

Any help would be much appreciated, maths isn't a strong point so I struggle with these type of questions.
 
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E has to be a vector, what direction is it in? Does the phi at the end indicate a unit vector? The curl should not be such a long expression.
 
Yes the Phi indicates a unit vector,

so since we're working in the direction of phi, the E x Curl is

|r ... theta ...phi |
|d/dr...[(1/r*sin(phi))*d/dtheta] ...[(1/r) d/dphi] |
|0... 0 ...E |

I've tried to represent it well here, I hope it makes sense. I just petformed the Determinant and I got that long line out. I also used maple and got something quite similar :/ any suggestions ?

Thank you for your help.
 
I'm not so sure the determinant trick works for calculating the curl in spherical coordinates. As far as I know it only applies in cartesian, though I could be wrong. Looking at the expression from the Griffiths text for curl in spherical coordinates, we only have E_{\phi} so it reduces to:
<br /> \nabla \times {E} = \frac{1}{rsin\theta} \left( \frac{\partial}{\partial\theta}(sin\theta E_{\phi}) \right) \hat{r} - \frac{1}{r}\left( \frac{\partial}{\partial r}(r E_{\phi})\right) \hat{\theta}<br />

I want you to work that out yourself, I don't think it works out to the same expression that you got. I underestimated the size of the curl, I anticipated it only depending on one term.. I was wrong =(. For future problems just refer to the expression in the cover of Griffiths if that's the text you're using.

As for 'what to do with the theta or r', you're integrating with respect to time, so they don't even come into the picture, just integrate as if they were constants.
 
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