Solving equation involing radicals

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The discussion revolves around finding real number solutions for the equation involving radicals: \(\sqrt{a-x} + \sqrt{b-x} = \sqrt{a+b-2x}\), with the condition that \(b > a > 0\). Participants are exploring the implications of squaring both sides of the equation and the nature of the solutions obtained.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss squaring the equation and the potential for extraneous solutions. They examine specific cases, particularly \(x = a\) and \(x = b\), and question whether \(x = b\) can be considered a valid solution given the conditions of the problem.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the nature of the solutions, particularly regarding the validity of \(x = b\). Some participants suggest that while both sides of the equation match when substituting \(x = b\), the presence of imaginary numbers complicates its status as a real solution. The discussion reflects differing interpretations of the problem's constraints.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of considering the domain of the square root functions involved, as the requirement for real outputs may exclude certain values of \(x\), particularly \(b\). There is ambiguity in the problem statement regarding these assumptions.

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Homework Statement


Hello , I need to find the real number solutions for the following equation.
[tex]\sqrt{a-x} + \sqrt{b-x} = \sqrt{a+b-2x}[/tex]

where [itex]b>a>0[/itex]

Homework Equations


equation is given above

The Attempt at a Solution


I squared both sides and and solved this. I got two solutions [itex]x=a[/itex] and [itex]x=b[/itex]. Now when we square both sides of the equations, there is possibility of getting some solutions which may not satisfy the original equation. Such solutions are called extraneous solutions. When I plug in [itex]x=a[/itex] in the original equations, LHS matches with the RHS. So its one of the solution which is a real number. But when I plug in the other possible solution [itex]x=b[/itex] in the original equation, I get the following [itex]\sqrt{a-b} = \sqrt{a-b}[/itex]. Now here left side matches with the right side. But since [itex]b>a>0[/itex], both sides are not real number anymore, So is [itex]x=b[/itex] extraneous solution or is it the second possible solution ?

thanks
 
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IssacNewton said:

Homework Statement


Hello , I need to find the real number solutions for the following equation.
[tex]\sqrt{a-x} + \sqrt{b-x} = \sqrt{a+b-2x}[/tex]

where [itex]b>a>0[/itex]

Homework Equations


equation is given above

The Attempt at a Solution


I squared both sides and and solved this. I got two solutions [itex]x=a[/itex] and [itex]x=b[/itex]. Now when we square both sides of the equations, there is possibility of getting some solutions which may not satisfy the original equation. Such solutions are called extraneous solutions. When I plug in [itex]x=a[/itex] in the original equations, LHS matches with the RHS. So its one of the solution which is a real number. But when I plug in the other possible solution [itex]x=b[/itex] in the original equation, I get the following [itex]\sqrt{a-b} = \sqrt{a-b}[/itex]. Now here left side matches with the right side. But since [itex]b>a>0[/itex], both sides are not real number anymore, So is [itex]x=b[/itex] extraneous solution or is it the second possible solution ?

thanks
x = b is the extraneous solution for the reason you give.
 
But Mark, left side matches with the right side in the case of [itex]x=b[/itex]. Extraneous solution means that, left side doesn't match with the right side. So I am little confused about my reasoning here.
 
IssacNewton said:
But Mark, left side matches with the right side in the case of [itex]x=b[/itex]. Extraneous solution means that, left side doesn't match with the right side. So I am little confused about my reasoning here.

The left and right sides DO match:
[tex]\sqrt{a-x} + \sqrt{b-x} = \sqrt{a-b} + \sqrt{0} \; \text{when } \; x = b\\<br /> \sqrt{a+b-2x} = \sqrt{a-b} \; \text{when } \; x = b[/tex]
 
Ray, so is [itex]x=b[/itex] an extraneous solution or not ?
 
When x = b, a - b < 0, so ##\sqrt{a - b}## is imaginary. However, you do get a true statement when x = b, and b is a real number, so I guess I'll revise my earlier statement, and say that both a and b are solutions.
 
Ok thanks Mark. But it seems weird that to get the real solution, the equality ends up involving imaginary numbers...
 
If the solutions to both expressions (i.e. both sides of the equation) are meant to be real, then x=b would not be allowed. In other words, if we are restricting the domain of possible 'x' values to numbers for which the square root function (in this equation) gives a real number output, then 'b' would not be in that domain. I think it's not totally clear if you are meant to assume this or not.

edit: but most likely, x=b should be a solution too, since the problem statement is a bit vague on this.
 
thanks Bruce
 

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