Solving Fixed Point Problems: x=4-x^2, f(x)=7+sqrt(x-1), f(x)=sqrt(10+3x)-4

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Homework Statement


Find all real values x that are fixed by the function y=4-x^2
f(x)=4-x^2

Homework Equations


x=y


The Attempt at a Solution


x=4-x62
0=-x^2-x+4
0=-(x^2+x+(1/4))+(17/4)

This is where i get stuck.

I also have two other problems which iIdo not understand how to work with.
f(x)=7+sqrt(x-1)
f(x)=sqrt(10+3x) -4

The main problem keeping me from doing the the two above is not knowing what to do with the square root of the expression underneath. Thanks in advance.
 
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Remember that you want to isolate x. Focus on doing that. If you are completing the square, be sure you know that method.
 
A "fixed point" for a function f is a value of x such that f(x)= x.

1) [itex]4- x^2= x[/itex] gives [itex]x^2+ x- 4= 0[/itex].
Solve that by completing the square or using the quadratic formula.

2) [itex]7+ \sqrt{x- 1}= x[/itex] is the same as [itex]\sqrt{x- 1}= x- 7[/itex].
Square both sides to get [itex]x- 1= (x- 7)^2= x^2- 14x+ 49[/itex].
That is also a quadratic equation- but this time is easily factorable. Be sure to check your answers in the original equation. "Squaring both sides" of an equation can introduce spurious solutions.

3). [itex]\sqrt{10+ 3x}- 4= x[/itex] is the same as [itex]\sqrt{10+ 3x}= x+ 4[/itex]. Again, square both sides to get a quadratic equation. Be sure to check your answers in the original equation.
 
HallsofIvy said:
A "fixed point" for a function f is a value of x such that f(x)= x.

1) [itex]4- x^2= x[/itex] gives [itex]x^2+ x- 4= 0[/itex].
Solve that by completing the square or using the quadratic formula.

2) [itex]7+ \sqrt{x- 1}= x[/itex] is the same as [itex]\sqrt{x- 1}= x- 7[/itex].
Square both sides to get [itex]x- 1= (x- 7)^2= x^2- 14x+ 49[/itex].
That is also a quadratic equation- but this time is easily factorable. Be sure to check your answers in the original equation. "Squaring both sides" of an equation can introduce spurious solutions.

3). [itex]\sqrt{10+ 3x}- 4= x[/itex] is the same as [itex]\sqrt{10+ 3x}= x+ 4[/itex]. Again, square both sides to get a quadratic equation. Be sure to check your answers in the original equation.

So for the 1st problem would the answer be [itex](\sqrt{17}/2)-(1/2)[/itex] or [itex](-\sqrt{17}/2)-(1/2)[/itex] Thanks for all of your help by the way.