Solving for a & b: Increasing GP Equations

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The problem involves finding the values of a and b given two quadratic equations with roots that are in increasing geometric progression (G.P.). The roots x_1 and x_2 are derived from the equation x^2 - 3x + a = 0, while x_3 and x_4 come from x^2 - 12x + b = 0.

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  • Participants discuss the relationships between the roots and the coefficients of the quadratic equations. There is uncertainty regarding the implications of the roots being in increasing G.P. and how this affects the values of a and b.

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Participants are exploring the definitions and implications of an increasing G.P. Some have noted the condition that the common ratio must be greater than 1, leading to the ordering of the roots. However, there is still a lack of clarity on how this information can be utilized to find the required values.

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There is a mention of insufficient information to solve for a and b, and participants are questioning the relevance of the increasing G.P. condition in the context of the problem.

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Homework Statement


If [itex]x_1,x_2[/itex] are the roots of [itex]x^2-3x+a=0[/itex] and [itex]x_3,x_4[/itex] are the roots of the equation [itex]x^2-12x+b=0[/itex] and [itex]x_1,x_2,x_3,x_4[/itex] are in increasing G.P., find a and b

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The Attempt at a Solution


[itex]x_1+x_2=3 \\<br /> x_1x_2=a \\<br /> x_3+x_4=12 \\<br /> x_3x_4=b[/itex]

But these are not sufficient to find a and b. Also what is meant by an increasing G.P.?
 
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utkarshakash said:

Homework Statement


If [itex]x_1,x_2[/itex] are the roots of [itex]x^2-3x+a=0[/itex] and [itex]x_3,x_4[/itex] are the roots of the equation [itex]x^2-12x+b=0[/itex] and [itex]x_1,x_2,x_3,x_4[/itex] are in increasing G.P., find a and b

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The Attempt at a Solution


[itex]x_1+x_2=3 \\<br /> x_1x_2=a \\<br /> x_3+x_4=12 \\<br /> x_3x_4=b[/itex]

But these are not sufficient to find a and b. Also what is meant by an increasing G.P.?
G.P. = Geometric Progression

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geometric_progression
 
utkarshakash said:
But these are not sufficient to find a and b. Also what is meant by an increasing G.P.?

It means that the common ratio of the GP is greater than 1.
 
Pranav-Arora said:
It means that the common ratio of the GP is greater than 1.

This means that [itex]x_1<x_2<x_3<x_4[/itex]
But what is the use of this in my question?
 
utkarshakash said:
This means that [itex]x_1<x_2<x_3<x_4[/itex]
But what is the use of this in my question?

Ignoring that detail for the moment, simply try answer the question and then you'll see.
 

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