Solving for Invertible Matrix: What Am I Doing Wrong?

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The discussion revolves around the invertibility of a matrix \( A \) defined by the equation \( A^{3}-2A^{2}+I=0 \). Participants explore the implications of this equation on the properties of \( A \), particularly focusing on whether \( A \) is invertible and the derivation of expressions for \( A^{-1} \). The discussion includes mathematical reasoning and clarification of concepts related to matrix invertibility.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the equation \( A^{3}-2A^{2}+I=0 \) and seeks to determine the correct statement regarding the invertibility of \( A \).
  • Another participant suggests that if \( A \) is not invertible, there exists a non-zero vector \( v \) such that \( Av=0 \), leading to a contradiction when substituting into the original equation.
  • There is a derivation of \( A^{-1} \) as \( 2A - A^{2} \) based on manipulating the original equation, with a follow-up suggestion to multiply by \( A^{-1} \) to explore further implications.
  • Clarification is provided regarding the condition for \( A \) not being invertible, emphasizing the relationship between the existence of non-trivial solutions to \( Ax=0 \) and the invertibility of \( A \).

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the implications of the equation regarding the invertibility of \( A \), with some exploring the conditions under which \( A \) may or may not be invertible. However, the discussion does not reach a consensus on the final characterization of \( A \)'s invertibility, as some uncertainty remains regarding the implications of the derived expressions.

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The discussion includes assumptions about the properties of matrices and their invertibility, which may depend on the definitions used. The mathematical steps taken by participants involve manipulations that are not fully resolved, leaving some aspects of the argument open to interpretation.

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Hello all again,

A is a matrix with order nXn, such that:

\[A^{3}-2A^{2}+I=0\]

I need to choose the correct answer:

1) A is not invertible
2) It is not possible to say if A is invertible
3)
\[(A^{-1})^{2}=2I-A\]
4)
\[A^{-1}=2I-A\]

I can't find the solution here. I tried my own, and got:

\[A^{3}-2A^{2}=-I\]

\[2A^{2}-A^{3}=I\]

\[A(2A-A^{2})=I\]

and therefore:

\[A^{-1}=2A-A^{2}\]

what am I doing wrong here?
 
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Yankel said:
Hello all again,

A is a matrix with order nXn, such that:

\[A^{3}-2A^{2}+I=0\]

I need to choose the correct answer:

1) A is not invertible
2) It is not possible to say if A is invertible
3)
\[(A^{-1})^{2}=2I-A\]
4)
\[A^{-1}=2I-A\]

I can't find the solution here. I tried my own, and got:

\[A^{3}-2A^{2}=-I\]

\[2A^{2}-A^{3}=I\]

\[A(2A-A^{2})=I\]

and therefore:

\[A^{-1}=2A-A^{2}\]

what am I doing wrong here?

Hi again Yankel! :)

Let's start with invertibility.

If $A$ is not invertible, there must be some $v\ne 0$ such that $Av=0$.
What is $(A^{3}-2A^{2}+I)v$?

Assuming that $A$ is invertible, then you've found that:
$$A^{-1}=2A-A^{2} = A(2I-A)$$
Suppose we multiply on the left with $A^{-1}$?
 
Oh, I see, you multiply on the left and get that A^-1 squared is exactly what I was looking for.

I did not understand the condition for A not being invertible.
 
Indeed.

One of the equivalent definitions of a matrix $A$ being invertible, is (see wiki):
The equation $Ax = 0$ has only the trivial solution $x = 0$.


Let's suppose that $A$ is not invertible.
Then there must be some $v\ne 0$ such that $Av = 0$.
Therefore:
$$(A^{3}-2A^{2}+I)v = A^3v - 2A^2v + Iv = A^2(Av) - 2A(Av) + v= A^20 - 2A 0 + v = v \ne 0$$
This is a contradiction since it's given that $A^{3}-2A^{2}+I = 0$.
Therefore $A$ is invertible.
 

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