Solving for Speed on a Roller Coaster's Top of Hill

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The roller coaster car at the top of an 18-meter radius circular rise experiences an apparent weight of only 60% of the true weight of the passengers. The correct formula to calculate the velocity of the coaster is derived from the centripetal force equation, F=mv²/r. The initial miscalculation used 60% of gravitational force instead of the correct 40%, leading to an incorrect velocity of 10.3 m/s. The accurate calculation yields a velocity of 8.4 m/s, confirming the importance of correctly interpreting forces in circular motion.

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Homework Statement


A roller coaster car is going over the top of a 18-m- radius circular rise. At the top of the hill, the passengers "feel light," with an apparent weight only 60% of their true weight. How fast is the coaster moving?

Homework Equations


I think F=mv^2/ (r)
F=ma

The Attempt at a Solution


Attempt:
F=mv^2/r
(.6)g=v^2/r
(9.8*.6)r=v^2
5.88*18=v^2
v=10.3 m/s My answer is said to be wrong
 
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This is not advanced physics, so moving to the intro physics section.
 
SilverAu said:

Homework Statement


A roller coaster car is going over the top of a 18-m- radius circular rise. At the top of the hill, the passengers "feel light," with an apparent weight only 60% of their true weight. How fast is the coaster moving?

Homework Equations


I think F=mv^2/ (r)
F=ma

The Attempt at a Solution


Attempt:
F=mv^2/r
(.6)g=v^2/r
(9.8*.6)r=v^2
5.88*18=v^2
v=10.3 m/s My answer is said to be wrong
You did not calculate what the question asks.
It's not the centripetal force which is 60% of the weight.
Draw a diagram with all the forces.
 
OK well if I am solving for the velocity of the moving coaster, how would I do that because I've drawn the diagram with forces and I don't see it.
 
Write Newton's second law for circular motion. The acceleration is the centripetal acceleration.
What is the expression for the net force at the top of the hill?
 
If they only felt 0.6 of their weight then the centripetal force on them is 1- 0,6= 0.4 of their weight.
 
Yeah I actually just figured it out, that is the only thing I messed up... Should be
F=mv^2/r
(.4)g=v^2/r
(9.8*.4)r=v^2
3.92*18=v^2
v=8.4m/s
Thanks for helping you guys
 

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