Solving for Wave Function in an Infinite Square Well

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The discussion revolves around solving for the wave function in an infinite square well, specifically focusing on the initial wave function given by a combination of sine and cosine terms. Participants are tasked with deriving the time-dependent wave function and calculating various expected values.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the validity of using sine and cosine functions as eigenfunctions in the context of the infinite square well. There is discussion about the implications of boundary conditions on the choice of eigenfunctions. Questions arise regarding the correct application of formulas and the treatment of the time-dependence factor in the wave function.

Discussion Status

Some participants express uncertainty about the application of the time-dependence factor to the initial wave function. Others suggest that the expected value of the Hamiltonian may vary with time, leading to further exploration of the implications of their assumptions. There is acknowledgment of differing results from computational tools, indicating ongoing attempts to clarify the calculations involved.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem is set in a different range for the infinite well compared to standard cases, which raises questions about the eigenfunctions and their definitions in this context. There is also mention of a deadline for the assignment, adding urgency to the discussion.

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Hi guys, this assignment is driving me nuts! Thank you very much for the help!

Homework Statement


Consider the infinite square well described by V=0, -a/2<x<a/x, and V=infinity otherwise. At t=0, the system is given by the equation

[tex]\Psi(x,0) = C_{1} \Psi_{1}(x) + C_{2} \Psi_{2}(x)[/tex]
[tex]\Psi(x,0) = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} \sqrt{\frac{2}{a}}cos\left \frac{\pi x}{a} \right + \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} \sqrt{\frac{2}{a}}sin\left \frac{2 \pi x}{a} \right[/tex]

(a) Obtain [tex]\Psi (x,t)[/tex]
(b) Use this [tex]\Psi (x,t)[/tex] to calculate <H>, delta H, <x> and <p>.
(c) What can you say about the result you obtained from part (b). Explain.

Homework Equations


[tex]\psi(x,0)=\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}c_n\psi_n(x)[/tex]

[tex]\psi_{n}(x)= \sqrt{\frac{2}{a}}sin\left \frac{n \pi x}{a} \right[/tex]

[tex]E_{n}=\frac{n^2\pi^2\hbar^2}{2ma^2}[/tex]

[tex]c_{n}=\int_{0}^{a} \sqrt{\frac{2}{a}}sin\left \frac{n \pi x}{a} \right \psi(x,0)dx[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution


Um...this problem is kind of similar to the infinite well problem posted below earlier...I want to know if the formulae up there are the right one to use first...before I blindly apply it and do the integrals...

the second term in the wave function looks like an eigenfunction for the energy...but the first one is a cosine so I am not sure what to do there...do I need to...split them up?

The equations above are for the infinite well from o to a...but this question is from -a/2 to a/2...so I am not sure if the eigenfunctions [tex]\Psi(x)[/tex] change ...:cry:

I also know [tex]\Psi (x,t)[/tex]can be obtained from multiplying [tex]\Psi (x,0)[/tex]by the appropriate phase factor once the [tex]\Psi_{n} (x,0)[/tex] is written as a linear combination of the energy eigenfunctions...but then there's the cosine in the first term...:mad: :confused:
 
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In this case, both cosine and sine forms are eigenfunctions of the energy operator. This is because we no longer have the boundary conditions [tex]\Psi(0,0) = \Psi(a,0) = 0[/tex].

I would think the complete form [tex]\Psi(x,t)[/tex] is easily obtained from the initial condition by simply appending the time-dependence factor to [tex]\Psi(x,0)[/tex] to yield [tex]\Psi(x,t) = \Psi(x,0) \exp{\left( \frac{iEt}{\hbar} \right)}[/tex]. But then again, I'm one of your fellow students who also needs to get this done by Monday 12:00h.

Moreover, once you have [tex]\Psi(x,t)[/tex], the rest of the question is very easy. You know what the Hamiltonian operator simplifies to in this case (I'm assuming "delta H" refers to the variance [tex]\sigma[/tex] and not the standard deviation).
 
Ah...thanks! Yes, I forgot the fact that the reason why only the sines are the eigenfunctions is because of the initial conditions! So yeah, the cosine here works just fine. So I guess it's just [tex]\Psi(x,t) = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} \sqrt{\frac{2}{a}}cos\left \frac{\pi x}{a} \right \exp{\left( \frac{iE_{0} t}{\hbar} \right)}+ \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} \sqrt{\frac{2}{a}}sin\left \frac{2 \pi x}{a} \right \exp{\left( \frac{iE_{1} t}{\hbar} \right)}[/tex], with [tex]E_{0}=\frac{\pi^2\hbar^2}{2ma^2}[/tex] and [tex]E_{1}=\frac{2^2\pi^2\hbar^2}{2ma^2}[/tex]?
 
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This is very strange. If we run with the assumption that the time-dependence factor can be tacked on so primitively, then the expected value of the Hamiltonian is a function of time.

I see no other way to derive the time-dependent form of [tex]\Psi(x,t)[/tex] from only [tex]\Psi(x,0)[/tex].
 
Um...well, I am stuck then if we can't just tack on the exponential factor. :confused: How should I go about in doing this problem?
 
Sorry, maybe it does work. I just tried solving for [tex]\langle H \rangle[/tex] in both Maple and Maxima, and the two CASs give different results. Maple gives a single value, but I think Maxima is unable to simplify the final expression to that value.

EDIT: My mistake. Maxima is able to simplify the expression perfectly. The input was wrong.
 
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It's ok! So I guess the answer to part a is as above...

Anyway, I very much appreciate your help!
 

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