Solving for x, but only getting half

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The problem involves solving the equation x^2 - 2x = 0, which is a quadratic equation. The original poster expresses confusion about obtaining only one solution (x = 2) when using a different method that involves dividing by x, leading to the question of how to ensure all solutions are found without graphing.

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  • Participants discuss factoring the equation and the implications of dividing by x. There are questions about the validity of different methods and the importance of considering cases where x could be zero.

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Participants have provided insights into the potential pitfalls of dividing by variables that could be zero and have suggested methods such as factoring and using the quadratic formula. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of different approaches to solving the equation.

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Some participants note the importance of not losing solutions by dividing by x, particularly when x could be zero. There is a recognition of the need to consider both zero and non-zero cases in the solution process.

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Homework Statement


Solve for x. x^2 - 2x = 0

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If I solve this equation by factoring out the x first, as in x(x-2) = 0, I get that x = 2 or x =0

However, if I add 2x, as in x^2 = 2x, then I divide by x, leaving x = 2
My second method only has one answer. What happened to x = 0?
When I solve equations like this, what should I do to guarantee that I get all of the solutions without using a graphing calculator?

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Calpalned said:
However, if I add 2x, as in x^2 = 2x, then I divide by x, leaving x = 2
My second method only has one answer. What happened to x = 0?
You cannot divide by x if it is zero. So your method assumes that x is not zero already, and obviously then you can't get it as a solution! In solving such problems, never divide by a quantity unless (1) you are sure it is nonzero or (2) you split out a separate case for when it is zero.
 
Maybe ##x^2-2x = x(x-2)## will help you? There are other ways as well. Such as ##x^2=2x##. Note that for the 2nd equation 0 is a solution (##0^2 = 2*0##). Then we can proceed to find non-zero solutions.
 
Thanks everyone!
 
Shinaolord said:
Maybe ##x^2-2x = x(x-2)## will help you? There are other ways as well. Such as ##x^2=2x##.
Writing the equation as x2 = 2x is pretty much a step backward, as it isn't any help. The only two ways I can think of to solve x2 - 2x = 0 are 1) factoring, and 2) quadratic formula. (In case someone suggests completing the square, that's already done for you in the quadratic formula.)

For this equation, it is much simpler to just factor the terms on the left side.

As already mentioned, any temptation to divide through by x should be resisted, due to the possibility of losing solutions.
Shinaolord said:
Note that for the 2nd equation 0 is a solution (##0^2 = 2*0##). Then we can proceed to find non-zero solutions.
 
##x^2=2x## implies that either ##x=0## or ##x=2## (because if ##x\neq 0##, we can divide by ##x## to get ##x=2##).

The above doesn't prove that the solutions are 0 and 2. It just proves that no number other than 0 or 2 can be a solution. It is however easy to verify that both 0 and 2 are solutions: Since ##0^2=0=2\cdot 0##, we know that ##0## is a solution. Since ##2^2=2\cdot 2##, we know that ##2## is a solution.

This is how I think when I solve these problems. I like this method better than both factorization and the formula for solutions.

An alternative to explicitly verifying that 2 is a solution is to note that if ##x\neq 0##, the statements ##x^2-2x=0##, ##x^2=2x## and ##x=2## are all equivalent.

In case it's not perfectly clear what's going on in the first step: We already knew without looking at the equation that either ##x=0## or ##x\neq 0##. So we consider these two possibilities separately. If ##x=0##, the equation tells us nothing. (OK, it tells us that ##0=0##, but we already knew that). If ##x\neq 0##, then the equation tells us that ##x=2##. We have now ruled out all non-zero solutions other than ##2##.
 
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