Solving for x: Simple Algebraic Equation with Square Roots

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The discussion revolves around solving the algebraic equation (x-1)²(x+1) = √(2-2x²), which involves square roots and polynomial expressions. Participants are exploring methods to manipulate the equation and identify solutions.

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  • Participants are examining the original poster's attempts to square both sides of the equation and are questioning the use of the ± symbol in this context. There is discussion about the implications of dividing by expressions that could equal zero, specifically (x + 1)(x - 1).

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Some participants have provided guidance on avoiding certain algebraic manipulations that could lead to loss of solutions. Others suggest revisiting the original equation and ensuring correct operations are applied at each step. There is an acknowledgment of the need to consider the conditions under which the square root is defined.

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There is a note regarding the requirement that x² must be less than or equal to 1 to avoid taking the square root of a negative number. Additionally, the original poster expresses uncertainty about their method and seeks further assistance.

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1. Homework Statement

Solve for x: (x-1)²(x+1)= √(2-2x²)

2. Homework Equations

3. The Attempt at a Solution
+/- ((x-1)²(x+1) (x-1)²(x+1)) = -2(x²-1)
+/- ((x-1)(x-1) (x+1)(x-1)²(x+1)) = -2
(x+1)(x-1)
+/- ((x-1)³(x+1)) = -2
+/- ((x²-2x+1)(x-1)(x+1)) = -2
+/- (x4 -2x³- 2x -1 ) = -2
x4 – 2x³ -2x +1 =0 or -x4 + 2x³ + 2x +3=0I feel like I'm using the wrong method and cannot reach an answer please help
 
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You have to show your work so we can see where you are stuck, otherwise you are just asking us to solve it for you, which is not how this forum works.
 
VictoriaV said:
1. Homework Statement

Solve for x: (x-1)²(x+1)= √(2-2x²)

2. Homework Equations

3. The Attempt at a Solution
+/- ((x-1)²(x+1) (x-1)²(x+1)) = -2(x²-1)
What's with the +/- ? When you square both sides you don't get \pm something.
VictoriaV said:
+/- ((x-1)(x-1) (x+1)(x-1)²(x+1)) = -2
(x+1)(x-1)
It looks like you divided both sides by (x + 1)(x - 1). That's not a good thing to do, as you are losing two of your solutions; namely, x = 1 and x = -1.

Instead of dividing both sides by (x + 1)(x - 1), add 2(x + 1)(x - 1) to both sides (getting 0 on the right side), and then factor the left side.
VictoriaV said:
+/- ((x-1)³(x+1)) = -2
+/- ((x²-2x+1)(x-1)(x+1)) = -2
+/- (x4 -2x³- 2x -1 ) = -2
x4 – 2x³ -2x +1 =0 or -x4 + 2x³ + 2x +3=0


I feel like I'm using the wrong method and cannot reach an answer please help
 
VictoriaV said:
1. Homework Statement

Solve for x: (x-1)²(x+1)= √(2-2x²)

2. Homework Equations

3. The Attempt at a Solution
+/- ((x-1)²(x+1) (x-1)²(x+1)) = -2(x²-1)
+/- ((x-1)(x-1) (x+1)(x-1)²(x+1)) = -2
(x+1)(x-1)
+/- ((x-1)³(x+1)) = -2
+/- ((x²-2x+1)(x-1)(x+1)) = -2
+/- (x4 -2x³- 2x -1 ) = -2
x4 – 2x³ -2x +1 =0 or -x4 + 2x³ + 2x +3=0

I feel like I'm using the wrong method and cannot reach an answer please help

Don't write +- in the first line. When you square the left-hand-side of your original equation, you always get a quantity ≥ 0. Also, by convention, √ always means the non-negative square root.

The right-hand-side only makes sense if ##x^2 \leq 1##; otherwise you would be taking the square-root of a negative quantity, and that would not give a real number anymore.

Use the "rational root theorem" to look for simple values of x that solve your 4th order equation---but first, get the right equation to look at. That means going back to the start and doing correct operations at each step. You will end up with a single equation, not a pair of different alternative equations.
 
i found it really easy to just multiply it all out and put it in your calculator. you will see that it only has 2 x intercepts
 

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