Solving for x with A, b, and c Given

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The discussion revolves around rearranging an equation to isolate the variable x, given known values for A, b, and c. The equation in question is A = bx / (1 - (1 + x)^-c), which involves exponential and polynomial components.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the challenges of isolating x and question whether a general solution exists for this type of equation. Some express curiosity about the complexity of the problem and seek guidance on potential methods or approaches.

Discussion Status

The conversation reflects a lack of consensus on the solvability of the equation, with some participants suggesting that a simple solution may not be feasible. Others mention using approximation methods, such as Excel's Goal Seek function, to find numerical solutions for specific values of A, b, and c.

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Participants note that for certain values of c (specifically c ≥ 4), the problem may be particularly complicated or impossible to solve analytically. There is also mention of the limitations of polynomial equations of higher degrees in finding general solutions.

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Hello,

Im trying to rearrange to find x from the below (all other values, A, b and c known)

[tex]A = bx / 1-(1+x)^-c[/tex]

Below denominator ending reads (1+x)^(-c)

I've rearranged but to no avail, I'm unsure how to isolate x

Any input much appreciated

Thanks
 
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Hello Toby! :smile:

(you needed to put the index in curly brackets, {-c}, since it had more than one character … alternatively, try using the X2 tag just above the Reply box :wink:)

This is the same as (1 + x)-c = 1 - (b/A)x …

I don't think there is a "simple" solution.

But why are you looking for one?
 
Noted

I've never come up against an equation like this before, just curious whether it can be solved for x ? (new skills)

Is there a general solution to this type of equation ?

Can you point me in the right direction ?

Thanks very much
 
Toby_Obie said:
Is there a general solution to this type of equation ?

I don't think so.

Real life just isn't that convenient! :redface:
 
Thanks anyway

Anybody else think they know the answer ?
 
Really, the problem is very complicated to solve, and for most [itex]c\geq 4[/itex] it's likely impossible to solve!

There is a proof that says for polynomials of degree 5 or higher, there is no way to solve the equation in its general case like quartics and below have been.
 
Okay

I'm using Excel to approximate x for known values of A, b, c

Thanks anyways
 
Just a note

Excel Goal Seek function solved my function to 4 decimal places, good tool
 

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