Solving Force and Velocity: Get Answer in 7.3m/s

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving force, velocity, and energy conservation. Participants are exploring the relationship between initial and final velocities, as well as the types of energy present in a system at a given point.

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  • Participants discuss the application of Newton's second law and energy conservation principles. There are questions about the assumption of initial velocity being zero and how it affects calculations. Some participants mention the types of energy involved, specifically kinetic and potential energy, and how to determine them at different points in the motion.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights and questioning assumptions. There is an exploration of different interpretations regarding energy types and the implications of initial conditions on the problem. Some guidance on using total energy and the area under the graph has been shared, but no consensus has been reached.

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Participants are navigating constraints related to assumptions about initial conditions and the definitions of energy types in the context of the problem. There is a mention of a specific total energy value, which may influence the calculations being discussed.

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I did

f=ma
(30+20)/2=2a
a=12.5m/s^2

vf^2=vi^2+2ad
vf^2=0+2•12.5•10
vf= 16 m/s

I remember doing a question like this on a test a while ago and I think the teacher said you don't know that the initial velocity is 0 or something like that?

anyways my way I don't get the right answer, the correct answer is 7.3m/s

How do I do this?
 
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The area under the graph gives the total work done.

At 10m, the box will have two kinds of energy, one is kinetic, what is the other?
 
rock.freak667 said:
The area under the graph gives the total work done.

At 10m, the box will have two kinds of energy, one is kinetic, what is the other?

ya there is ep and ek but you can't really find Ek at the start or at the end right?

unless you assume the starting velocity is 0 but what if its not?
 
or do u use 250j total energy and the inititial Ep, I thinks that's right.
 
brentwoodbc said:
ya there is ep and ek but you can't really find Ek at the start or at the end right?

unless you assume the starting velocity is 0 but what if its not?

That's the nice thing about conservation of energy.

Ep+Ek= Total energy up to the point of the motion.

So at the beginning

mghinitial+1/2mv2initial = Total energy.

And at any other point

mgh + 1/2 mv2= Total energy at that point.


So if you want the energy at the end. You can get the total energy there using the area.

so mghend +1/2mv2end=Total energy at the end.
 
thank you very much.
 

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