Solving Initial Value Problem: \(\ln(t)+t^2y^2-\sin(y)=\pi^2\)

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The discussion revolves around solving the initial value problem represented by the equation \(\ln(t) + t^2y^2 - \sin(y) = \pi^2\). Participants clarify the steps involved in deriving the solution from the exact differential equation \(\left(\frac{1}{t} + 2y^2t\right)dt + \left(2yt^2 - \cos(y)\right)dy = 0\). The key to solving this problem lies in recognizing the equality of mixed partial derivatives, leading to the integration of terms to arrive at the general solution. The initial condition \(y(1) = \pi\) is applied to determine the constant of integration.

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Ok, I have a practice exam... My professor gave out a copy with worked out examples. There is one where I don't get his logic at all. I was wondering if you guys could explain it to me?\(\displaystyle (\frac{1}{t}+2y^2t)dt+(2yt^2-\cos(y))dy=0\)

First, he put \(\text{Assume t>0}\)
?

\(\displaystyle \text{Since} \frac{\partial}{\partial y}(\frac{1}{t}+2y^2t)=4yt=\frac{\partial}{\partial t}(2yt^2-\cos(y))\)

\(\displaystyle F(t,y)=\int (\frac{1}{t}+2y^2t)dt=\ln(t)+y^2t^2+f(y)\)
\(\displaystyle ~~~~~~~~~~~=\int (2yt^2-\cos(y))dy=y^2ts-\sin(y)+g(t)\)

From those (not sure how to do two lines into right brace).

\(\ln(t)+t^2y^2-\sin(y)=C\)
\(y(1)=\pi\)
\(0+\pi^2-0=C\)

\(\therefore \ln(t)+t^2+y^2-\sin(y)=\pi^2\)
 
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Re: Ivp

alane1994 said:
Ok, I have a practice exam... My professor gave out a copy with worked out examples. There is one where I don't get his logic at all. I was wondering if you guys could explain it to me?\(\displaystyle (\frac{1}{t}+2y^2t)dt+(2yt^2-\cos(y))dy=0\)

First, he put \(\text{Assume t>0}\)
?

\(\displaystyle \text{Since} \frac{\partial}{\partial y}(\frac{1}{t}+2y^2t)=4yt=\frac{\partial}{\partial t}(2yt^2-\cos(y))\)

\(\displaystyle F(t,y)=\int (\frac{1}{t}+2y^2t)dt=\ln(t)+y^2t^2+f(y)\)
\(\displaystyle ~~~~~~~~~~~=\int (2yt^2-\cos(y))dy=y^2ts-\sin(y)+g(t)\)

From those (not sure how to do two lines into left brace).

\(\ln(t)+t^2y^2-\sin(y)=C\)
\(y(1)=\pi\)
\(0+\pi^2-0=C\)

\(\therefore \ln(t)+t^2+y^2-\sin(y)=\pi^2\)

An ODE written in the form...$\displaystyle A (t,y)\ dt + B(t,y)\ dy = 0\ (1)$

... where $\displaystyle \frac{\partial A}{\partial y}= \frac{\partial B}{\partial t}$ is called 'exact differential' and its solution, with initial condition $y(t_{0})= y_{0}$ is... $\displaystyle \int_{t_{0}}^{t} A(u,y)\ du + \int_{y_{0}}^{y} B(t_{0},v)\ dv = c\ (2)$

In Your case is $\displaystyle A(t,y) = \frac{1}{t} + 2\ y^{2}\ t$ and $\displaystyle B (t,y) = 2\ y\ t^{2} - \cos y$ so that $\displaystyle \frac{\partial A}{\partial y} = \frac{\partial B}{\partial t}$ and You have an exact differential. The general solution is given from (2)...

$\displaystyle \int_{t_{0}}^{t} (\frac{1}{u} + 2\ u\ y^{2})\ du + \int_{y_{0}}^{y} (2\ t_{0}^{2}\ v - \cos v)\ dv= c\ (3)$

... and the integration of (3) is left to You...

Kind regards

$\chi$ $\sigma$
 
Where did the the

\(y^2ts\)

come from?

How did terms cancel like that? It seems like they shouldn't.
 
Re: Ivp

This is a pretty standard "exact differential" problem. First, the "Assume t> 0" is to avoid t= 0 which, because of the "1/t", would cause trouble. Of course there would be another solution if we were to "assume t< 0".

(I just noticed that I have used "x, y" where you have "t, y". Assume my "x" is your "t".)

If F(x, y) is a differentiable function of x and y, then its differential is \frac{\partial F}{\partial x}dx+ \frac{\partial F}{\partial y}dy. As long as those partial derivatives are smooth, we must have the "mixed derivatives" the same: \frac{\partial^2 F}{\partial x\partial y}= \frac{\partial^2 F}{\partial y\partial x} (where the order of "\partial x" and "tex]\partial y[/tex]" indicates the order of differentiation).

Now, we can write "u(x,y)dx+ v(x,y)dy" which looks like a differential- but it may not be! (We would say it is not "exact".) If this were really a differential, We would have to have \frac{\partial F}{\partial x}=u and \frac{\partial F}{\partial y}= v then \frac{\partial^2 F}{\partial x\partial y}= \frac{\partial u}{\partial y}= \frac{\partial v}{\partial x}= \frac{\partial^2 F}{\partial y\partial x}.

That is what is called the "mixed partials test" and they are showing after "Since".

Because that is true, we know there exist some function, F(x,y) such that \frac{\partial F}{\partial x}= \frac{1}{x}+ 2y^2x. Integrating (with respect to x, treating y as a constant) F= ln(x)+ y^2x^2+ \phi(y). (Since we are treating y as a constant, the "constant of integration" may depend on y. That is the "\phi(y)" above.)

Now, differentiate F= ln(x)+ y^2x^2+ \phi(y) with respect to y: \frac{\partial F}{\partial y}= 2y^2x+ \frac{d\phi}{dy}. (Notice that the derivative of \phi is an ordinary derivative, not a partial derivative because \phi is a function of the single variable y.)

But we know, from the equation, \frac{\partial F}{\partial y}= 2yx^2- cos(y) so we must have 2y^2x+ \frac{d\phi}{dy}= 2yx^2- cos(y). Notice that the only terms involving x, 2yx^2, cancel! That had to happen because of the "mixed derivatives" condition. That leaves just \frac{d\phi}{dy}= -cos(y) so that \phi(y)= -sin(y)+ C (C really is a constant here) so that
F(x,y)= ln(x)+ y^2x^2- sin(y)+ C.

Since the differential equation was "dF= 0", F must be a constant: F(x,y)= ln(x)+ y^2x^2- sin(y)+C= c or just F(x, y)= ln(x)+ y^2x^2- sin(y)= C&#039; where I have combined the two constants: C'= c- C.

Dropping the "F", which was not part of the original equation, ln(x)+ y^2x^2- sin(y)= C.

(Replacing x with your t:
ln(t)+ y^2t^2- sin(y)= C.)

(I suspect the "y^2ts" was a typo. It should be just "y^2t".)
 
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Thank you guys very much! Makes a lot more sense now!
 

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