Solving Kepler's Third Law for Period - 6.7E6m

Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around determining the orbital period of a satellite located 6.7×10^6 meters from the center of the Earth, utilizing Kepler's Third Law of planetary motion.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the application of Kepler's Third Law and the gravitational constant in calculating the period. There are various attempts to manipulate the equations, with some questioning the correctness of the steps taken and the importance of unit analysis.

Discussion Status

Multiple interpretations of the equations are being explored, with some participants providing corrections to earlier posts. There is ongoing debate about the accuracy of the calculations and the necessity of including units in the analysis.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express concern over the lack of unit analysis in the calculations, suggesting that this could lead to errors. Additionally, there are remarks about the appropriateness of the problem's placement in the forum, indicating a potential mismatch with the expected level of complexity.

KVat390
Messages
3
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement


Find the period of a satellite that is in orbit 6.7×10^6 meters from the center of the earth?


Homework Equations


P^2=R^3 P=period and R=average distance


The Attempt at a Solution


so far I have tried P^2=(6.7×10^6)^3
then sqrt of (P^2)=sqrt of (3.00763×10^20)
My answer is the period of the satellite=1.73425×10^10
I'm pretty sure my answer is way off, please describe how to get the correct answer.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
4∏/T^2=GM/R^3
4∏/T^2=(6.67×10^-11)(5.98×10^24)/(6.7×10^6)^3
12.57/T^2=(3.98866E14)/(3.00763E20)
12.57/T^2=1.326180414E-6
T^2=1.66700878E-5
T=.0040829019
Is this answer correct?
 
I don't think so. How did you get T^2= ?

I would have solved for T^2 first and then inserted the values. It always makes things easier.

GM*T^2 = 4*pi^2 * R^3

T^2 = 4*pi^2*R^3 / G*M
 
Last edited:
Unit-free calculations almost never end well.
 
A Revision to my previous post

The equation is 4pi^2/T^2=GM/R^3 not 4pi/T^2=GM/R^3
I changed my answer to 5.46 periods
39.48/T^2=(3.98866E14)/(3.00763E20)
T^2=39.48/1.33x10^-6
sqrt of T=sqrt of 39.48/1.33x10^-6
T=5.45×10^3 periods/earth years
Is my answer correct?
 
Last edited:
KVat390 said:
The equation is 4pi^2/T^2=GM/R^3 not 4pi/T^2=GM/R^3
I changed my answer to .00723578554
39.48/T^2=(3.98866E14)/(3.00763E20)
T^2=5.235760276E-5
sqrt of T=sqrt of 5.235760276E-5
T=.0072358554 periods/earth years
Is this answer correct?

I fixed my eqns to say pi^2

so that T^2 = 4 * pi^2 * R^3 / (G * M) = 4 * pi^2 (6.7E6)^3 / ((6.67E-11) * (5.98E24)) = 2.98E7

and T =5.46E3

When I did my calculations I got tripped up by a lack of parentheses around the denominator terms which meant that I divided by the G and then multiplied by the M instead of dividing by (G * M)
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: 1 person
Still won't knuckle under and use units, eh? Good Luck with the rest of your course work!
 
SteamKing said:
Still won't knuckle under and use units, eh? Good Luck with the rest of your course work!

Klingon programmers have no need of units, we use junits...
 
  • #10
Edit: To the OP I forgot the pesky pi factor again but fixed my post above.

Having gotten the answer for T and knowing R does it seem reasonable?

What object might have a periodicity like this?

Oh and as SteamKing said where is your unit analysis? What units is used for T?
 
Last edited:
  • #11
jedishrfu said:
I fixed my eqns to say pi^2

so that T^2 = 4 * pi^2 * R^3 / (G * M) = 4 * pi (6.7E6)^3 / ((6.67E-11) * (5.98E24)) = 9.47E6

and T = 3.07E3
That result is incorrect. You dropped a factor of pi.

You are being sloppy and it is getting you in trouble.You also are not following instructions. You didn't read the instructions on where to post your physics problems.

vela said:
If your thread mysteriously disappears without a trace from this forum, you probably didn't post it in the right place, so your thread was moved to the Introductory Physics or Engineering forum.

Advanced physics does not mean, among other things:
  • "I think this problem is really hard."
  • "I'm taking a college physics course."
  • "We're covering electromagnetism now."
  • "We're covering relativity now."
  • "We're covering quantum mechanics now."
If you have to plug numbers into a formula to get the final answer, that's usually a good sign the question doesn't belong here.

Questions that do belong in this forum are from upper-division or graduate physics courses — classes physics majors (in the US) take in their junior year and later.

This is not an advanced physics homework problem. I'm moving this to the introductory physics homework section.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: 1 person
  • #12
'Advanced Physics' also doesn't mean, "Units? Units? I don't need no stinkin' units!"
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: 1 person

Similar threads

Replies
2
Views
1K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
3K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
3K
  • · Replies 29 ·
Replies
29
Views
4K