Solving Limits and Riemann Sums: Tips from Nemo

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The discussion centers on solving limits and Riemann sums, specifically addressing the correct approach to evaluating a Riemann sum as a definite integral. The correct method involves recognizing the expression as a definite integral and applying the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus (FTOC) to compute the integral. The example provided illustrates the process of transforming the Riemann sum into the integral $$\int_{4}^{9}\sqrt{x}\,dx$$ and calculating its value, resulting in approximately 12.6667.

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Hi Community,

I have the following question:
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I have done basic solving of limits and also of Riemann sums but never had to do them in the same question.

Would I be correct in saying that I need to solve for the Riemann sum first then take the limit of the integral?

Cheers Nemo
 

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Nemo said:
Hi Community,

I have the following question:I have done basic solving of limits and also of Riemann sums but never had to do them in the same question.

Would I be correct in saying that I need to solve for the Riemann sum first then take the limit of the integral?

Cheers Nemo

No, this entire expression, which is a Riemann Sum, represents a definite integral. You need to figure out what the definite integral is, and then solve the definite integral. You aren't trying to solve this by taking the sum.
 
So after, quite a few days of working thru this one. I think I have it.

$$\lim_{{n}\to{\infty}}\sum_{k=0}^{n-1}\sqrt{4+\frac{5k}{n}}\cdot\frac{5}{n}$$

Using the formula:

$$\int_{a}^{b} f(x)\,dx = \lim_{{n}\to{\infty}}\sum_{i=1}^{n}f(xi)\Delta x$$

Using:

$$\Delta x = \frac{b-a}{n} = \frac{5}{n}$$

$$xi = 4+\frac{5k}{n}$$

$$a = 4$$

$$b = 9$ $from$ $b - 4 = 5$ $solve$ $for$ $b = 9$$

To then get:

$$\lim_{{n}\to{\infty}}\sum_{k=0}^{n-1}\sqrt{{xi}}$ $\Delta x =$$$$ \int_{4}^{9}\sqrt{{xi}} \,dx$$

$$ \int \sqrt{x} \,dx$$ $=$ $$ \int {x^{\frac{1}{2}}} \,dx$$- Power Rule - $$\int x^a$ $dx = \frac{x^{a+1}}{a+1}$ $Where$ $a\ne 1$$

To then get:

$$x^{\frac{1}{2}}\,dx$ $=$ $\frac{x^{\frac{1}{2}+1}}{{\frac{1}{2}}+1}$ $=$ $\frac{2x^{\frac{3}{2}}}{3}+c$$

Using the FTOC.

$$F(b)=\frac{2\cdot9^{\frac{3}{2}}}{3}=18$$ - $$F(a)=\frac{2\cdot4^{\frac{3}{2}}}{3}=\frac{16}{3}$$

To get:

$$\frac{38}{3}$ $\approx12.6667$$

Its been a bit of a long journey of learning but I got there.

Cheers Nemo.
 

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