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The discussion revolves around understanding quadratic inequalities involving conic sections, specifically how to determine which regions of the graph to shade based on the inequalities. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the implications of the inequality symbols in the context of different conics, particularly hyperbolas and circles.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the process of determining which side of a conic section corresponds to the inequality by testing points. Questions arise about the interpretation of the inequality symbols and their implications for different types of conics.

Discussion Status

Some participants offer guidance on checking points to determine the correct shading for inequalities, while others clarify the nature of the conic sections and their properties. There is an ongoing exploration of the concepts without a clear consensus on the original poster's confusion.

Contextual Notes

The original poster mentions a lack of guidance in their textbook regarding how to approach shading for quadratic inequalities, which contributes to their uncertainty. There is also a reference to the specific forms of conic equations and their transformations.

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1. Homework Statement

In a chapter in a book I'm studying from, they introduce quadratic inequalities (all conics, not just parabolas) but don't go over how to deduce which portion of the graph should be shaded. Considering there's two variables involved in these inequalities, I've been having trouble understanding without someone guidance.

I've included an image of one of their example problems of the two that were provided in the book.

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2. Homework Equations

Circle has one standard form only, as for the rest the equation that's on a horizontal axis centered at origin and the second equation is on the vertical axis can be achieved by interchanging x and y. To manipulate the center, replace x^2 with (x-h)^2 and y^2 with (y-k)^2 (except for the parabola).
Standard Form of a Circle: x^2+y^2=r^2 (radius)
Standard Form of an Ellipse: x^2/a + y^2/b = 1
Standard Form of a Parabola: y = a(x-h)^2+k
Standard Form of a Hyperbola: x^2/a - y^2/b = 1

3. The Attempt at a Solution

After simplifying the second equation into it's standard form for example, I ended up with:

x^2/16 - y^2/4 > 1

I understand what the ellipse looks like and how to graph it and everything — but I don't understand what the "> 1" implies. I can understand that it means shade inside the conic section from the graph they've provided — but what does this imply for circles? Other hyperbolas?

I'm sorry, I'm completely lost on this chapter.
Andrew
 
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I'm not sure I understand what it is that you don't understand... what you are asking seems too simple.
You write that you understand what "the ellipse" looks like... did you mean the hyperbola?
Having sketched the conic, all you need to do is find which side of the curve matches the inequality, right? Find a point on an axis that is clearly in one region, substitute the x and y values in the equation, and see if the inequality is true.
 
Etheryte said:
1. Homework Statement

In a chapter in a book I'm studying from, they introduce quadratic inequalities (all conics, not just parabolas) but don't go over how to deduce which portion of the graph should be shaded. Considering there's two variables involved in these inequalities, I've been having trouble understanding without someone guidance.

I've included an image of one of their example problems of the two that were provided in the book.

View attachment 81397

2. Homework Equations

Circle has one standard form only, as for the rest the equation that's on a horizontal axis centered at origin and the second equation is on the vertical axis can be achieved by interchanging x and y. To manipulate the center, replace x^2 with (x-h)^2 and y^2 with (y-k)^2 (except for the parabola).
Standard Form of a Circle: x^2+y^2=r^2 (radius)
Standard Form of an Ellipse: x^2/a + y^2/b = 1
Standard Form of a Parabola: y = a(x-h)^2+k
Standard Form of a Hyperbola: x^2/a - y^2/b = 1

3. The Attempt at a Solution

After simplifying the second equation into it's standard form for example, I ended up with:

x^2/16 - y^2/4 > 1

I understand what the ellipse looks like and how to graph it and everything — but I don't understand what the "> 1" implies. I can understand that it means shade inside the conic section from the graph they've provided — but what does this imply for circles? Other hyperbolas?

I'm sorry, I'm completely lost on this chapter.
Andrew

If f(x,y) contains linear, quadratic and constant terms, you can usually determine the region f(x,y) >= 0 by checking if the origin (x,y)=(0,0) satisfies the inequality or not. The only time this fails is when the boundary f = 0 passes through the origin. In that case, test another point instead, such as (x,y ) = (1,0) or something similar.
 
@Etheryte: I may be being redundant with this but... I suppose it goes without saying that the graph of ##f(x,y)=0## is the locus of all points where the function is zero. That means everywhere else it is either true that ##f(x,y)>0## or ##f(x,y)<0##. So the graph divides the plane into those types of regions. Quadratics are all continuous so the function can't go from positive to negative anywhere but on the graph. That's why you only need to check a point in each region as others have suggested.
 
If you have a circle defined by the equation x2 + y2 = r2, then this circle is centered at the Origin and has radius r.

When you take a point (x0, y0) and plug its value into the equation for this circle:

if x02 + y02 = r2, the point (x0, y0) lies on the circle

if x02 + y02 < r2, the point (x0, y0) lies inside the circle

if x02 + y02 > r2, the point (x0, y0) lies outside the circle
 

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