Solving Machine Problem 1: Frictionless Steel Shuttle

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The problem involves a steel shuttle moving along a fixed unlubricated steel rail, pulled by an elastic cord at an angle. The shuttle's mass is specified, and the tension in the cord is given, raising questions about the role of friction in this scenario.

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  • Participants express understanding of how to solve the problem but question the absence of friction. Some discuss the implications of the term "fixed unlubricated" and its potential suggestion of friction. Others reflect on the nature of classroom physics and the simplifications often made in problems.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the implications of the problem's wording and the assumptions made in introductory physics contexts. There is a recognition of the potential disconnect between the problem's setup and typical real-world scenarios.

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Participants note that the problem may have been simplified for educational purposes, possibly omitting details that could clarify the role of friction or other forces. There is a suggestion that the problem's original context may have included additional information that has been removed for brevity.

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1. A machine has a steel shuttle that is moving along a fixed unlubricated steel rail pulled by an elastic shuttle cord, which is at an angle

The shuttle has a mass of 800g and is released when the elastic cord has 20N tension at an angle of 45 degrees.


I know how to solve the problem, but I do not know why friction does not play a role here.
 
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amrit2 said:
I know how to solve the problem, but I do not know why friction does not play a role here.
Because you are in an introductory class and it makes the maths too hard.

It's the strange world of classroom physics, where springs have no mass, air has no resistance and inclined planes go on for ever!
 
What strikes me though is the term "fixed unlubricated," which makes it seem as if the problem is trying to hint that there is friction.
 
It would normally mean you are considering a rolling rather than sliding wheel - this makes a difference because of angualr momentum.
Often the questiosn don't make sense because they were originally longer and had a second part that needed the extra info - but for a new edition, or a lower level course they chop off part 2.

If you ever think - "is it me or is this a stupid question in the textbook", consider how little money you get for writing and checking textbook questions!
 

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