Solving Metal Disk Problem: Find T

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The problem involves a uniform metal disk that is free to oscillate as a physical pendulum about an axis through its edge. The objective is to find the period of small oscillations, denoted as T.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the moment of inertia of the disk and its relevance to the problem. Questions arise regarding the correct formula for the moment of inertia when the disk is oscillating about its edge. Some participants suggest using the parallel axis theorem to adjust the moment of inertia.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the correct approach to determining the moment of inertia and its application in calculating the period T. Some participants express uncertainty about the formulas being used, while others provide guidance on the parallel axis theorem. A participant claims to have arrived at a correct expression for T, but no consensus is reached on the overall solution.

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Participants are navigating through the implications of using different formulas for moment of inertia and the necessity of the parallel axis theorem in this context. There is a focus on ensuring the correct application of these concepts without definitive conclusions being drawn.

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Homework Statement



A uniform metal disk (M = 8.21 kg, R = 1.88 m) is free to oscillate as a physical pendulum about an axis through the edge. Find T, the period for small oscillations.

Homework Equations



[itex]I = mr^{2}/4[/itex]
[itex]T = 2\pi √(I/mgd)[/itex]

The Attempt at a Solution



I combined the formula together to get:

[itex]T = 2\pi √((mr^{2}/4)/(mgr))[/itex]
[itex]T = 2\pi √(r/(4g))[/itex]

But the answer is incorrect
 
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NasuSama said:
[itex]I = mr^{2}/4[/itex]
How did you arrive at this result?
 
Doc Al said:
How did you arrive at this result?

I am thinking that I need to use the moment of inertia of the disk.
 
NasuSama said:
I am thinking that I need to use the moment of inertia of the disk.
Of course you do, but that's not the correct formula.
 
Doc Al said:
Of course you do, but that's not the correct formula.

Then, it's something like I = mr²/2, rotating to its center. However, the disk oscillates through its edge.

I am not sure which path to go for...
 
NasuSama said:
Then, it's something like I = mr²/2, rotating to its center.
Right.
However, the disk oscillates through its edge.
Use the parallel axis theorem. (Look it up!)
 
Doc Al said:
Right.

Use the parallel axis theorem. (Look it up!)

Hm.. By the Parallel Axis Theorem, I would assume that:

[itex]I = I_{center} + md^{2}[/itex]
[itex]I = mr^{2}/2 + mr^{2}[/itex] [Since the disk rotates about an axis through the edge, we must add the inertia by mr². r is the distance between the center and the edge of the disk.]
[itex]I = 3mr^{2}/2[/itex]

Is that how I approach this? Let me know where I go wrong. Otherwise, I can just plug and chug this expression:

[itex]T = 2\pi √((3mr^{2}/2)/(mgr))[/itex]
[itex]T = 2\pi √(3r/(g))[/itex]
 
Nvm. My answer is right. Thanks for your help by the way!
 
Good! :approve:
 

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