Solving Momentum Questions: Inelastic Collisions

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The discussion revolves around solving momentum questions related to inelastic collisions, specifically addressing the conservation of momentum and kinetic energy in such scenarios.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between gravitational potential energy and kinetic energy, questioning whether kinetic energy remains the same before and after the collision. There is an attempt to calculate momentum and velocity based on conservation principles, with some participants expressing uncertainty about the calculated velocity value.

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Participants are actively engaging with each other's reasoning, with some providing affirmations of the correctness of identified flaws in reasoning. There is a mix of support and requests for clarification, indicating a collaborative exploration of the problem.

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Some participants note the potential discrepancy in the calculated velocity, suggesting it may be too high, while others emphasize the importance of using momentum conservation in inelastic collisions.

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Homework Statement



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Homework Equations



Mg deltha H

1/2mv^2

p=mv

The Attempt at a Solution



I believe statement to do with the Gravitational energy is correct, considering the equation I listed. I would have to agree with statement 2 since gpe=keHere is what I am thinking, I disagree with the Ke = the same as before collision.

my reason is 1/2mv^2= 0.16j ----- v= sqrt (0.32/71.6ex-3) now if this is correct we can work out the momentum

which i have down as 1.5 x10^-1 using, momentum is conserved we can work out velocity of the pellet which turns out to be 180m/s (I think this could be wrong)

But could I just say that, the collision was inelastic, hence kinetic energy is not conserved, therefore working out velocity from Momentum would be better since momentum is conserved.
 
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This is a terribly formatted post can you clean it up a bit and make sure your equations are correct and readable?
 
done
 
anyone help?
 
Fresko said:
I disagree with the Ke = the same as before collision.

my reason is 1/2mv^2= 0.16j ----- v= sqrt (0.32/71.6ex-3) now if this is correct we can work out the momentum

which i have down as 1.5 x10^-1 using, momentum is conserved we can work out velocity of the pellet which turns out to be 180m/s (I think this could be wrong)

But could I just say that, the collision was inelastic, hence kinetic energy is not conserved, therefore working out velocity from Momentum would be better since momentum is conserved.
Good answer.
 
haruspex said:
Good answer.

Are you being serious or troll? I can't tell :cry:

If you could outline what is actually good and makes sense in my answer would make me more confident.
 
Fresko said:
Are you being serious or troll? I can't tell :cry:

If you could outline what is actually good and makes sense in my answer would make me more confident.

haruspex is most definitely not a troll -- he is one of our very valued Homework Helpers and Science Advisors. :smile:
 
I was being quite serious :smile:. You correctly identified the flaw in the student's reasoning, and that the correct way is to use conservation of momentum.
 
haruspex said:
I was being quite serious :smile:. You correctly identified the flaw in the student's reasoning, and that the correct way is to use conservation of momentum.

but doesn't 180m/s seem to big of a value for the velocity.
 
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Fresko said:
but doesn't 180m/s seem to big of a value for the velocity.

No, it looks right to me. Remember that the pellet is only 1/90 of the mass of the ball.
 

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