Solving Newtons Law Problem for Hot Air Balloon Mass of Ballast

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a hot air balloon experiencing a downward acceleration and seeks to determine the mass of ballast that must be discarded to achieve zero acceleration. The context is rooted in Newton's laws of motion and buoyancy principles.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the forces acting on the balloon, including gravitational and buoyant forces. There is an attempt to equate these forces to find the necessary mass of ballast to discard. Questions arise regarding the nature of buoyant forces and their dependence on gravitational force.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on equating gravitational and buoyant forces, while others express uncertainty about buoyancy and its relationship with gravity. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, and there is no explicit consensus on the approach yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the assumption that air resistance can be neglected, and there is a focus on the calculations involving forces without a complete resolution of the problem.

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Homework Statement


A hot - air balloon experiences an acceleration of 1.10 m/s^2 [down]. The total mass of the balloon, the basket, and the contents of the basket is 315 kg.

The balloonist wishes to change the acceleration to zero. There is no fuel left to heat the air in the balloon. Determine the mass of the ballast that must be discarded overboard. [NEGLECT AIR RESISTANCE]



Homework Equations


Newtons second law equation : F = mA

Free body diagrams are also important


The Attempt at a Solution



I drew a free body diagram for the hot air balloon and I noticed there were two forces: The force of gravity and the upward (buoyant) force on the system. I calculated the upward force on the system to be approximately 2.7 * 10^3 N [up].

However I'm totally stuck on what to do next.
Please help and many thanks in advance!
 
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Hello Ballox,

Welcome to Physics Forums!

I assume you know the gravitational force is equal to mg. The goal is to set the gravitational force equal to the buoyant force. "g" isn't about to change any time soon, so... :wink:
 
I am not sure how buoyant forces work. Does this buoyant change when force of gravity changes? If so, what is the formula for buoyant force?
 
collinsmark said:
Hello Ballox,

Welcome to Physics Forums!

I assume you know the gravitational force is equal to mg. The goal is to set the gravitational force equal to the buoyant force. "g" isn't about to change any time soon, so... :wink:


So setting the gravitational force equal to the buoyant force would be:

mG = 2.7 * 10^3 N [up] ( I rounded this, it really should be around 2740.5 N)

Which we would solve for m as : 279.6 kg.

But this gives us the mass when when the gravitational force is equal to the buoyant force...so we have to subtract this mass from the mass of the entire system to determine the amount of mass that must be discarded overboard.

So I get :

315 KG - 279.6KG ~ 35 kg.

^
So I get the answer in the textbook! ^^;

Is this the right approach?
 
Ballox said:
So I get :

315 KG - 279.6KG ~ 35 kg.

^
So I get the answer in the textbook! ^^;

Is this the right approach?

Looks good to me! :approve:
 
collinsmark said:
Looks good to me! :approve:

Sweet. Thanks for your help.
 

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