Solving ODE to find general solution

  1. If we assume air resistance is negligible, the only force acting on a body is -Mg where g is the acceleration due to gravity ( negative because acting downwards). F = Ma becomes :
    -Mg = M y''
    which implies
    y''=-g

    Question asks find the general solution for y.



    2. Relevant equations
    y is the distance above the ground of an object
    y' is the vertical velocity
    y'' is vertical accelaration


    3. The attempt at a solution

    Here is what I have done so far:

    y'' = -g, therefore y' = -gt + A
    integrating again
    y= -1/2 gt^2 + At + B

    Am I correct so far or do I take gravity to be a constant such as x giving me an answer of:

    y = -3/2 g^3 + At + B
     
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  3. rock.freak667

    rock.freak667 6,220
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    No no, the first one is quite correct. Acceleration due to gravity is constant. So your first general solution is correct.
     
  4. Thanks for that, following on the question asks to find particular solutions for:
    y(0) = [y][0] and y'=[v][0] for which i get:

    [y][0] = B and [v][0] = A - gt

    Are these correct also?
     
  5. rock.freak667

    rock.freak667 6,220
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    Yes those are correct. I assumed by [y][0] you meant y0 such that y(0)=y0 and not y(0)= 0.
     
  6. Ye sorry that is what I meant. Now is the part I am really stuck with. The final part pf the question states,
    A sky diver whose mass is 80kg leaps from a plane at 4000m above the ground and his parachute fails to open. If initial velocity is zero at what time does he hit the ground? and how fast is he going when he hits? Assume g = 10m.s^-2.
    I am not sure as to tackle this question, maybe using basic formula such as v^2 = u^2 + 2as something like that?
     
  7. rock.freak667

    rock.freak667 6,220
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    Ok, well you just solved the equation y''=-g and got y=y0+v0t -1/2gt2 right?

    If he initially starts at 4000m, then wouldn't y(0)=4000? What is y(0) equal to from your initial conditions when solving the ODE? Similarly the diver has an initial velocity so y'(0)=0. What y'(0) equal to?

    And when the diver hits the ground, his displacement 'y should be zero.
     
  8. Ok so if that is the case y(0)= 4000 would give me an answer of, 4000 = y0 which was the initial condition. The second was that y' = v0. So Substituting back into general solution would give,
    y = 4000 + (0)t- 1/2gt^2, where initial vertical velocity is zero, v0 = 0
    So from there 4000 = 1/2 gt^2
    8000 = gt^2
    t^2 = 8000/10 (As gravity = 10m.s^-2)
    t = SQRT (800)
    t = 28.284 seconds
    Correct?
     
  9. rock.freak667

    rock.freak667 6,220
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    Yes that looks correct.
     
  10. Thanks for all your help :smile:
     
  11. Oops sorry I forgot to answer the speed at which he hits the ground? U say his displacement 'y should be zero. could u expand on that for me please.
     
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