Solving ODEs w/ Frobenius Method: Q on b, c as Funcs of x

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The discussion centers on using the Frobenius method for solving ordinary differential equations (ODEs) of the form (x^2)y'' + xby' + cy = 0, specifically when b and c are functions of x versus when they are constants. It clarifies that the Frobenius method is applicable only when b and c are functions of x, while the Euler-Cauchy equation applies when they are constants, allowing the solution form y = x^r. A participant expresses difficulty in applying the method to a specific equation, xy'' + 5y' + xy = 0, and seeks guidance after struggling with the textbook's explanations. The conversation also touches on the indicial equation's roots and suggests exploring a substitution related to Bessel's equation for further insights. The overall focus remains on clarifying the application of the Frobenius method in different scenarios.
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I have been looking at the Frobenius method for solving ODEs of the form. I have a few questions on it.


(x^2)y'' + xby' + cy = 0

If b and c are functions of x, does one use the Frobenius method, where as if they are constants, it is an Euler Cauchy equation and you use y = x^r ??

Thats the first Q. anyway.

Thanks folks!:smile:
 
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y=xr only works for the Euler-Cauchy equation, i.e. b and c are constants.

If b and c are functions of x, you cannot use the try function y=xr.
 
Thanks for cledaring that up.

I'm having trouble applying the method. My textbook, (which I won't name but it's approach and exlanation in this section is absolutely terrible) isn't helping me much.

I have been trying to solve, for example,

xy'' + 5y' + xy = 0

So I get

SUM(n + r)(N + r -1)(a_n)x^(n + r -2) + SUM(5)(n + r)(a_n)x^(n + R -2) + SUM(a_n)x^(n + r +1) = 0

where SUM is the sum to infinity from n = 0.

and the general solution is of form y=(x^r)SUM(a_n)(x^n)


I don't know what to do know. The book's next steps are done without explanation really.
Can someone help me??
 
x=0 is a regular singular point. There is at least one solution of the form y=(x^r)SUM(a_n)(x^n)
where r satisfy the indicial equation r2+4r=0.
r1=0 , r2=-4 and r1-r2 is an integer in this case.

The Frobenius method only guarantee for r=0 (the larger root) but not for r=-4 (but there is no harm for trying)

If you know anything about Bessel equation, I would suggest you solve the equation using the substitution z=x2y.
 

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