Solving Particle P Collision: Angle, Momentum, Energy

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The problem involves an elastic collision between two particles, where one particle is initially at rest. The original poster seeks to determine the angle of deflection, momentum, energy changes, and the speed and mass of the recoiling particle after the collision.

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  • Participants discuss the conservation of kinetic energy and momentum in elastic collisions. The original poster attempts to set equations based on these principles to find the speed and mass of the recoiling particle. Some participants question the interpretation of the angle of deflection and the correctness of the initial calculations.

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There is ongoing exploration of the calculations related to the speed of the recoiling particle. Some participants have confirmed their answers for earlier parts of the problem, while others express uncertainty about the results for the speed and mass of the recoiling particle.

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Participants are working under the constraints of an online homework system that provides immediate feedback on their answers, which has led to discussions about potential transcription errors and the need for careful checking of calculations.

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Homework Statement


A particle p traveling with a speed of vpi = 3 m/s hits and scatters elastically from another particle N, initially at rest. Particle p is deflected through 90°, leaving with a speed of vpf = 2.5 m/s, and a mass mp = 2 kg.

a) What angle (in degrees) does the recoiling N make to the incident-p direction? ans = 39.8055
b) What is the magnitude of the momentum of the recoiling N? ans = 7.810
c) What is the change in the energy of the p? ans =2.75
Im stuck on the next one.
d) What is the speed of the recoiling N?

What I thought I should do is set .5*m*v^2 = 2.75 since its elastic collision kinetic energy's conserved and the initial kinetic energy was 0. Then set m*v=7.810 since the momentum is conserved then solve one for m and sub it into the m in the other equation. DOing this both ways i get .7402 which is wrong.

e) What is the mass of the N?
This will be easy to find after i get d.
 
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I am not clear on what "p is deflected through 90°" means. I would expect p and n to move away with a 90° angle between them. Is that it?
 
Initial kinetic energy (KE) = that of p alone, before the collision. Final KE = post-collisiion KE of p + post-collision KE of N. Initial momentum = pre-collision momentum of p alone. Final momentum = post-collision momentum of p + post-collision momentum of N. Renember: KE is a scalar, but momentum is a vector.

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Are you sure your answers for a-d are all correct? If so, your answer for e should definitely be correct.
 
ArticMage said:

Homework Statement


What I thought I should do is set .5*m*v^2 = 2.75 since its elastic collision kinetic energy's conserved and the initial kinetic energy was 0. Then set m*v=7.810 since the momentum is conserved then solve one for m and sub it into the m in the other equation. DOing this both ways i get .7402 which is wrong.

I got the same answers as you for a, b and c. For d I got 0.7042. Could you just be making a transcription error?
 
Nope I am plugging it into the online homework and it says its wrong. The first 3 are correct though.
 
ArticMage said:
Nope I am plugging it into the online homework and it says its wrong. The first 3 are correct though.

I agree that 0.7402 is incorrect. Is 0.7042 correct?
 
Oh yeah that did it. I guess I just miss read it a couple times there. Thanks.
 
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ArticMage said:
Oh yeah that did it. I guess I just miss read it a couple times there. Thanks.

I am glad it got resolved. In the future, though, be aware that if the answer is wrong and the physics seems correct, you can save you and us time by checking for things like wrong negative signs or typos.
 

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