Solving Projectile Motion Problems: Intersecting Balls at Different Heights

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The discussion revolves around solving a projectile motion problem involving two balls thrown from different heights with specified initial velocities. The first part addresses calculating the time of intersection between the two balls, with the derived time being approximately 1.74 seconds. The second part explores the timing of the throws to ensure both balls hit the ground simultaneously, concluding that ball B should be thrown first, approximately 2.14 seconds before ball A. Participants suggest using a reference frame in free fall for a simpler solution. Overall, the calculations and methods presented aim to verify the accuracy of the results.
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Homework Statement


The top of a 10-storey building (42 m) , someone throws a ball (A) down with a
initial speed of 2.5 m / s. You are on the second floor (8 m window above the ground) and
You throw a ball (B) upward with an initial speed of 22 m / s.
a) If both balls are thrown together after how much time do they intersect ?
b) It is hoped that the two balls, launched with the same speed and in the same direction , strike
the soil simultaneously. Which bullets (A or B) is to be launched first? how
time before the other ball should it be launched ?

Homework Equations


Initial Speed for A: 2.5 m/s
height B initial: 42 m
height B final: 0 m
Initial Speed for B: 22 m/s
height B initial: 8 m
height B final: 0 m


The Attempt at a Solution


a)
height final= height initial + Initial speed *(final time - initial time) - g/2 *(final time - initial time)^2
0=8 + 22m/s * (time) - 9.81/2 * (time)^2
0=42 + 2.5m/s * (time) - 9.81/2 * (time)^2

To find the the time when it intersect I did this:
42 + 2.5m/s * (time) - 9.81/2 * (time)^2 = 8 + 22m/s * (time) - 9.81/2 * (time)^2

and found 1.74seconds

For b)

I found at what time they both hit the ground.

0=42 + 2.5m/s * (time) - 9.81/2 * (time)^2 // A hits the ground in 3.19 secs
0=8 + 22m/s * (time) - 9.81/2 * (time)^2 // B hits the ground in 4.82 secs

I want to trow B first because it takes longer than A to hit the ground.

Now since B hits the ground in 4.82 secs I will replace 4.82 sec in this 42 + 2.5m/s * (time final - time initial) - 9.81/2 * (time final - time initial)^2 , I will replace it in time final. So I will have to find the time initial. I want A to hit the ground the same time as B.

42 + 2.5m/s * (4.82 - time initial) - 9.81/2 * (4.82- time initial)^2=0

I find 2.14 secs.

Can you guys verify that its all good please ? I really appreciate it :)
 
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Max0007 said:
42 + 2.5m/s * (time) - 9.81/2 * (time)^2 = 8 + 22m/s * (time) - 9.81/2 * (time)^2
Which way was the ball thrown from the top? (Same problem in part b.)
There is an easier way to solve this. Consider a reference frame in free fall.
Max0007 said:
For b)
I found at what time they both hit the ground.
0=42 + 2.5m/s * (time) - 9.81/2 * (time)^2 // A hits the ground in 3.19 secs
0=8 + 22m/s * (time) - 9.81/2 * (time)^2 // B hits the ground in 4.82 secs
 
haruspex said:
Which way was the ball thrown from the top? (Same problem in part b.)

There is an easier way to solve this. Consider a reference frame in free fall.
"Which way was the ball thrown from the top? (Same problem in part b.)"
downward so its -2.5m/s

But for part b) I realized I did not do the right thing. I don't know how to actually do it ;(
 
Max0007 said:
downward so its -2.5m/s
Right. The easier way, as I wrote, is to consider a reference frame in free fall. In that frame, each ball has a constant velocity. So how long do they take to meet?
Max0007 said:
But for part b) I realized I did not do the right thing.
Quite so.
You started out well, finding the time each takes. From there it was an extremely short step to the answer, but you wandered off course.
 
haruspex said:
Right. The easier way, as I wrote, is to consider a reference frame in free fall. In that frame, each ball has a constant velocity. So how long do they take to meet?

Quite so.
You started out well, finding the time each takes. From there it was an extremely short step to the answer, but you wandered off course.
Time B - Time A? only that :O
 
Max0007 said:
Time B - Time A? only that :O
That'll do it.
 
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