Solving Quantum Mechanics Integrals: Prove This One

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The discussion revolves around understanding a specific integral in quantum mechanics, particularly focusing on complex integrals and their evaluation. Participants explore various approaches to solving the integral and share insights related to contour integration and properties of complex functions.

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  • One participant expresses confusion over a particular integral from a quantum mechanics text and seeks clarification.
  • Another participant suggests a substitution involving complex numbers to simplify the integral.
  • A detailed explanation of contour integration is provided, including the use of Cauchy's theorem to argue that the integral over a closed contour is zero.
  • The discussion includes a breakdown of the contour into segments and the implications of taking limits as parameters approach infinity.
  • One participant notes the relationship between the integrals of the conjugate expressions, highlighting an interesting property of the exponential function.
  • There is a mention of the implementation of LaTeX for mathematical expressions, indicating a focus on clarity in mathematical communication.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the best approach to the integral, and multiple viewpoints regarding the evaluation methods and properties of the functions involved are presented.

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The discussion includes assumptions about the behavior of integrals in the complex plane and the conditions under which certain properties hold, such as the limits approaching infinity and the nature of the integrand.

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Hi all,
Reading a book on quantum mechanics, I cannot understand an integral.
Now I can understand this one.
http://www.geocities.jp/badtrans666/physics/int1.gif
however I don't understand this.
http://www.geocities.jp/badtrans666/physics/int2.gif
As a matter of course, x, t are real numbers.
Maybe I'm missing something easy...
Thanks in advance! (btw how can I display these as images? I'm using img tags)
 
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substitution x=t+i and not worrying too much seems to make it make more sense.
 
Consider the contour C in the complex plane consisting of the line segments (separately parametrized with "t"):
[itex]L_{1}: t+i, -a\leq{t}\leq{a}[/itex]
[itex]L_{2}: a+(1-t)i, 0\leq{t}\leq{1}[/itex]
[itex]L_{3}: -t, -a\leq{t}\leq{a}[/itex]
[itex]L_{4}: a+ti 0\leq{t}\leq{1}[/itex]

Consider now the (complex) integral [itex]\oint_{C}exp(-z*z)dz[/itex]
where the complex variable z is to be evaluated along the contour C.
Since the integrand is an analytical function we have, by Cauchy's theorem:
[itex]\oint_{C}exp(-z*z)dz=0[/itex]
This is analogous to the real (multi-)variable theorem that says that the integral of a gradient field along a closed contour is zero.

Furthermore, w the complex integral is additive, so we may split up the integral over C in 4 integrals over the 4 line segments:
[itex]\oint_{L_{1}}exp(-z*z)dz+\oint_{L_{2}}exp(-z*z)dz+\oint_{L_{3}}exp(-z*z)dz+\oint_{L_{4}}exp(-z*z)dz=0[/itex]

Now, let us look at the limiting expression when we let "a" go towards infinity:
Every complex point on the vertical strips [itex]L_{2},L{4}[/tex] will get bigger and bigger modulus. But that means that the two integrals along these strips will decrease in value, reaching 0 in the limit.<br /> <br /> Thus, we are left with the expression:<br /> [itex]\int_{-\infty}exp(-(t+i)*(t+i))dt+\int_{\infty}exp(-t*t)dt=0[/itex]<br /> Here, the upper limit in the first integral is infinity, whereas the upper limit in the second integral is negative infinity. (My keyboard is working against me!)<br /> <br /> Switching upper and lower limits in the last integral effects the identity you were after.[/itex]
 
Thanks! It's so easy...

I noticed

exp(-(t+i)^2) is the conjugate of exp(-(-t+i)^2) !

arildno's explanation is very interesting.
 
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maverick6664 said:
Thanks! It's so easy...
I noticed
exp(-(t+i)^2) is the conjugate of exp(-(-t+i)^2) !
arildno's explanation is very interesting.
Let me practice tex on this forum:
[tex]exp(-(t+i)^2)[/tex]
is the conjugate of
[tex]exp(-(-t+i)^2)[/tex]

So

[tex]\int^{+\infty}_{-\infty} exp(-(x+i)^2)dx = \int^{+\infty}_{_\infty} exp(-x^2)dx[/tex]

Oh! cool tex implementation!
 
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