Solving Radioactive Decay Mix-Up & Calculating Half-Life

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The discussion revolves around the equations related to radioactive decay and the calculation of half-life. Participants are examining the relationship between decay rate and activity, questioning the use of symbols and definitions in the context of their homework on radioactive decay.

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  • The original poster attempts to clarify the relationship between the decay rate and activity equations, expressing confusion over the symbols used. Some participants suggest that the two equations represent the same concept but may differ in units. Others explore the derivation of these equations and the implications for calculating half-life.

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Participants are actively engaging with the mathematical relationships and definitions, with some providing insights into the derivation of equations. There is a recognition of the need to clarify the connection between decay rate and activity, but no consensus has been reached on the implications of the symbols used.

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There is mention of potential confusion due to the use of different symbols for similar concepts, as well as the need to derive equations correctly for homework purposes. The discussion reflects an exploration of definitions and relationships in radioactive decay without resolving the underlying ambiguities.

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This isn't a direct question and answer problem, it relates to an essay I am doing.

I am a bit confused on the equations given by my tutor for radioactive decay, I suspect there is a mix up of symbols used where two symbols are used for the same think (such as N and R for the normal force).

On the powerpoint relating to it, she stated that the decay rate, R, is as below
<br /> R=R_0e^{-λt} <br />

However I also have the formula below
<br /> A=A_0e^{-λt}<br />

Are they the same thing, I understand that the second one is the activity, measured in Bq, but also the first one?

Also if I were to calculate the half-life of something, which formula would I use?

Thanks :)
 
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They are the same thing. Radioactivity is a manifestation of decay, any decayed atom emits some particle that is registered as radioactivity. So one is proportional to another, and the coefficient depends on the units used to measure these two quantities.
 
The activity is defined as the variation in time of the number of nuclei, and is also proportional to the number itself
$$ A=-\frac{\mathrm{d}N}{\mathrm{d}t}=\lambda N $$
Solving this equation you have immediately
$$ N(t)=N_0e^{-\lambda t}=N_0e^{-t/\tau} $$
where ##\tau=1/\lambda## is the mean lifetime (you find it tabulated).
Now clearly then
$$ A(t)=\lambda N(t) $$
and your result is there.

As for the ##R## I think it is more or less the same thing, eventually expressed as different units, but essentially has the same meaning.

Last of all, to compute the half-life, compute ##t## for which you have ##N(t)=N/2##
 
tia89 said:
Solving this equation you have immediately
$$ N(t)=N_0e^{-\lambda t}

Yeah I have seen that one as well with N, I know N stands for the number of Nuclei though is it the same as well then?

I need to derive it and end up with the one using A, would the below be ok? (i don't think it is)

<br /> A=\frac{dN}{dt}=-λt \\<br /> ∫\frac{1}{N}dN=∫-λdt \\<br /> e^{logN}=e^{-λt} \\<br /> ∴A=A_0e^{-λt}<br />

Any help is appreciated.
 
First solve
$$ \frac{\mathrm{d}N}{\mathrm{d}t}=-\lambda N $$
exactly as you did
$$ \int_{N_0}^{N(t)}\frac{\mathrm{d}N}{N}=-\int_{0}^{t}\lambda \mathrm{d}t $$
$$ \ln\left[ \frac{N(t)}{N_0} \right]=-\lambda t $$
$$ N(t)=N_0 e^{-\lambda t} $$

Then after that you have by definition ##A=\lambda N## (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radioactive_decay#Radioactive_decay_rates) and therefore
$$ A(t)=\lambda N_0 e^{-\lambda t}=A_0 e^{-\lambda t} $$
calling ##A_0=\lambda N_0## (by definition).
 
tia89 said:
First solve
$$ \frac{\mathrm{d}N}{\mathrm{d}t}=-\lambda N $$
exactly as you did
$$ \int_{N_0}^{N(t)}\frac{\mathrm{d}N}{N}=-\int_{0}^{t}\lambda \mathrm{d}t $$
$$ \ln\left[ \frac{N(t)}{N_0} \right]=-\lambda t $$
$$ N(t)=N_0 e^{-\lambda t} $$

Then after that you have by definition ##A=\lambda N## (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radioactive_decay#Radioactive_decay_rates) and therefore
$$ A(t)=\lambda N_0 e^{-\lambda t}=A_0 e^{-\lambda t} $$
calling ##A_0=\lambda N_0## (by definition).

Many thanks, appreciate it.
 

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