Solving Rotation Question: Find Angular Speed After Collision

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The problem involves a small block colliding with a uniform vertical rod that is pivoted at its midpoint. The objective is to find the angular speed of the rod immediately after the collision, where the block sticks to the rod. The context includes concepts from rotational dynamics and collision theory.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of conservation of momentum and energy in the context of the collision. There is a focus on why conservation of energy does not apply in this inelastic collision scenario.

Discussion Status

The discussion is exploring the principles of conservation of momentum and energy in collisions. Some participants have provided insights into the nature of inelastic collisions, noting that while momentum is conserved, energy is not. There is an acknowledgment of the typical assumptions in collision problems.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that energy conservation is generally not applicable in collision exam questions unless explicitly stated. The discussion reflects on the specific conditions of the collision being inelastic.

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Homework Statement


the small block is heading towards the uniform vertical rod. the rod is pivoted at its midpoint and is free to rotate without friction.
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the block collides with the rod, which is at rest, and sticks to it at its lower point.
find the angular speed of rod immediately after collision.

Homework Equations


we can use Li=Lf and it will give the right answer.

The Attempt at a Solution


but when i try to use the conservation of energy, it doesn't work.
KEblock=(Rotational KE)rod and block
why not?
 
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sicrayan said:

The Attempt at a Solution


but when i try to use the conservation of energy, it doesn't work.
KEblock=(Rotational KE)rod and block
why not?

This is an inelastic collision.

In an inelastic collision, momentum is conserved, but energy is not.

If the block had bounced off of the rod, energy could have been conserved (if the collision were perfectly elastic.)
 
welcome to pf!

yup … in a collision exam question, energy is never conserved unless the question says so! :wink:
 
all right, thank you both :)
 

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