Solving Separable DE with Initial Value: Techniques and Examples

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The discussion revolves around solving a separable differential equation with an initial value, specifically the equation y' = xy/(1+x²). Participants are exploring techniques for separating variables and addressing initial conditions.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the initial attempts to separate variables by dividing by y, questioning why this approach does not yield the expected results. There is also a focus on manipulating logarithmic expressions to simplify the solution.

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Some participants have provided steps they took in their attempts to solve the equation, while others have raised questions about the validity of those steps. A participant expresses understanding after some clarification, indicating a productive direction in the discussion.

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There is an emphasis on the expected form of the solution, c*sqrt(1+x², which suggests that participants are working under specific assumptions about the solution's structure.

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How would I start this one? I tried dividing by y, but that does not work

y'=xy/(1+x²)
 
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Why doesn't that work?
 
Jeann25 said:
How would I start this one? I tried dividing by y, but that does not work

y'=xy/(1+x²)

Yeah why does dividing by y not work?
 
Here's what I did:

1/y y' = x/(1+x²)
ln y = 1/2 ln (1+x²)+c
y = ce^(1/2 ln(1+x²))

Answer's supposed to be: c*sqrt(1+x²)
 
Jeann25 said:
Here's what I did:

1/y y' = x/(1+x²)
ln y = 1/2 ln (1+x²)+c
y = ce^(1/2 ln(1+x²))

Answer's supposed to be: c*sqrt(1+x²)

Yeah, ok and how is that different from what you had? Just simplify your expression with the properties of logs.
 
Nevermind. I get it now. Thank you :)
 

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