Solving Separable Equations: How to Solve for Y in Terms of X

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The discussion revolves around solving a quadratic equation derived from a separable differential equation. The original poster is attempting to isolate the variable y in the equation y^2 - 2y = x^3 + 2x^2 + 2x + 3.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the nature of the equation as quadratic in y and discuss the standard form of quadratic equations. Questions arise regarding the identification of coefficients, particularly the constant term.

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The conversation includes attempts to clarify the structure of the quadratic equation and how to apply the quadratic formula. Some participants provide guidance on identifying coefficients, while others seek confirmation of their understanding.

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Participants are navigating the constraints of the problem as presented in the textbook, which provides limited instruction on isolating y. There is an ongoing discussion about the correct interpretation of the equation's terms in relation to standard quadratic forms.

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Ok, I'm having trouble with the last part of this problem. After solving for the constant C, I get:
y^2 - 2y = x^3 + 2x^2 +2x + 3

My question is, how do I solve this in terms of Y? The only instruction my book gives me is "To obtain the solution explicitly we must solve for y in terms of x. This is a simple matter in this case since the equation is quadratic in y" and then they jump to the solution:
y = 1 +/- sqrt(x^3 + 2x^2 +2x + 4)
 
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Well you said it yourself: it's a quadratic in terms of y.

Do you know how to solve quadratic equations?
 
dav2008 said:
Well you said it yourself: it's a quadratic in terms of y.

Do you know how to solve quadratic equations?


So would the expression x^3 + 2x^2 +2x + 3 be treated as the 'c' value in the quadratic eq?
 
Yep.

Remember that the quadratic equation let's you solve for a certain variable (we'll call it w here) when you have an equation in the form of [itex]aw^2+bw+c=0[/itex]
 
Alright I got it, thanks a lot
 
davegillmour said:
So would the expression x^3 + 2x^2 +2x + 3 be treated as the 'c' value in the quadratic eq?

Actually, no. Since your equation is y^2 - 2y = x^3 + 2x^2 +2x + 3
and the quadratic is normally written ay^2+ by+ c= 0,
c= -x^3- 2x^2- 2x- 3.
 

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