Solving Set Theory Homework: Sets, Tuples, etc

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This discussion focuses on solving set theory problems, specifically addressing the formulation of pair sets and the application of functions over real numbers. The participant clarifies that simply stating a set as S = {a,b} may not suffice without additional context. They explore the function 1-|x^2-1| = 0, emphasizing the need for a proof-like approach, such as using the property "if a = b then |a| = |b|". Three methods for handling modulus signs are discussed, with the third method—finding critical values and dividing the real line into intervals—proven to be the most efficient.

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  • Understanding of basic set theory concepts, including pair sets and tuples.
  • Familiarity with functions and their properties in real analysis.
  • Knowledge of modulus functions and their implications in equations.
  • Ability to identify critical values and intervals on the real number line.
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  • Study the properties of functions in real analysis, focusing on proofs involving absolute values.
  • Learn about critical points and interval testing in calculus.
  • Explore advanced set theory concepts, including Cartesian products and relations.
  • Practice solving complex equations involving modulus by applying the three discussed methods.
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So if a question asks you for a pair set, with some criteria, is it enough to just say S = {a,b} or do you need something extra? Also this is another question that is from my set theory class, if the question defines a function and to solve over the Real numbers, ex. 1-|x^2-1| = 0, I know it isn't as simple as it looks, I know we are supposed to give all the values of x satisfying this function in a set, but I think our professor is looking for some kind of proof, like using, "if a = b then |a| = |b|". So my question is, how do I integrate those if statements while solving for all values of x?
 
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So if a question asks you for a pair set, with some criteria, is it enough to just say S = {a,b} or do you need something extra?
There is a simple constraint for elements of a set that does not apply to elements of a tuple.
Also this is another question that is from my set theory class, if the question defines a function and to solve over the Real numbers, ex. 1-|x^2-1| = 0, I know it isn't as simple as it looks, I know we are supposed to give all the values of x satisfying this function in a set, but I think our professor is looking for some kind of proof, like using, "if a = b then |a| = |b|". So my question is, how do I integrate those if statements while solving for all values of x?
There are three ways I can of for dealing with modulus signs.
1. Square
In this example you can write (x2-1)2 = 1. Not useful here, though.
2. Consider each combination of the binary choices separately.
To illustrate that I need a more complicated example: 1-|x^2-1| = |x+3|
The four cases to be considered correspond to x2>1 versus x2<1, and x>-3 versus x<-3. Some combinations may turn out to be impossible.
3. Find all the critical values of x and divide the real line up into corresponding intervals. In my example, the critical values are x=-1, x=+1, x=-3, so the line is divided into four intervals.

Generally, method 3 scales better than method 2 (which grows cases exponentially).
 
Thanks, that helped, I figured out the solution set to all parts of that question.
 

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