Solving Spherical and Cylindrical Capacitors for Inner Radii

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The discussion revolves around solving equations for the capacitance of spherical and cylindrical capacitors, specifically focusing on determining the inner radius of each type. The original poster presents equations for capacitance and expresses concern about potential algebraic errors in their attempts to isolate the inner radius.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the validity of the equations presented for capacitance and the attempts to solve for the inner radius. Questions arise regarding the presence of height in the spherical capacitor formula and the correctness of the derived expressions for 'a'.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing examination of the equations and their components, with some participants clarifying the definitions and roles of variables. The original poster is re-evaluating their calculations and seeking confirmation on the algebraic manipulations performed.

Contextual Notes

Participants note discrepancies in the labeling of the equations and the implications of the variables involved, particularly the height in the spherical capacitor formula. There is a recognition of potential algebraic errors affecting the feasibility of the results.

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Homework Statement


I have two homework problems, both of which require me to solve the equation for the capacitance of a capacitor for the inner radius of the capacitor (one cylindrical, one spherical). This shouldn't be a problem, but I think my algebra is screwy.
a = inner radius
b = outer radius
C = capacitance
h = height of capacitor

Homework Equations


Capacitance of a Spherical Capacitor:
(i) C=4[tex]\pi[/tex][tex]\epsilon_{0}[/tex]ab / (b-a)

Capacitance of a Cylindrical Capacitor:
(ii) C=2[tex]\pi[/tex][tex]\epsilon_{0}[/tex]h / ln(b/a)

The Attempt at a Solution


My attempts at solving these for a are as follows:
(i) a = b*C / (C + 4*[tex]\pi[/tex]*[tex]\epsilon[/tex]*b)
(ii) a = b / e[tex]^{(2*\pi*\epsilon*h / C)}[/tex]
 
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Both are correctly derived!
What is the h in the spherical formula?
 
The equations are solved for a correctly?

There is no h in the spherical formula.
 
meph11 said:
Capacitance of a Spherical Capacitor:
(ii) C=2[tex]\pi[/tex][tex]\epsilon_{0}[/tex]h / ln(b/a)

(ii) a = b / e[tex]^{(2*\pi*\epsilon*h / C)}[/tex]

An h is showing in each formula on my screen. Just before "/ ln(b/a)" in the first formula.
 
whoops, i had them labeled wrong. (i) is the capacitance of a spherical capacitor, and (ii) is the capacitance of a cylindrical capacitor. h is the height of the capacitor. Hm, I must be entering values into my calculator incorrectly... rechecking now.
 
Yeah, I solved the cylindrical one (ii) correctly, I just just plugging values in incorrectly.

The spherical one is still giving me issues though, I'm getting

a = b + (C / (4 * Pi * E)), which means that a will always be greater than b, an impossible situation when a is the inner radius. So I think that somewhere I've got my algebra wrong, specifically a minus sign missing somewhere.
 

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