Solving Spin-Orbit Coupling in Hydrogen & Li+2

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The discussion revolves around the effects of spin-orbit coupling in hydrogen and doubly ionized lithium (Li2+). The original poster attempts to determine the 'l' quantum number for a specific n=5 state in hydrogen and predict the analogous energy splitting for Li2+.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of the 'l' quantum number using the spin-orbit coupling energy equation and explore the implications of applying similar methods to Li2+. Questions arise regarding the impact of the nucleus's charge on calculations, particularly concerning the reduced electron mass and the resulting energy differences.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants exploring different aspects of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to consider the nucleus's charge when calculating parameters for Li2+, and there is an ongoing examination of the calculations related to reduced mass and wave number differences.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating potential misunderstandings about the relationship between nuclear charge and reduced mass calculations, indicating a need for clarification on these concepts. The original poster's calculations and assumptions are under scrutiny, particularly regarding the values used for mass in the reduced mass formula.

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Homework Statement



One of the n=5 states of hydrogen is split by spin-orbit coupling into two levels with an energy difference of 0.0039 cm^-1 . Determine the 'l' quantum number for this state and predict the analogous splitting for doubly ionised Li .


Homework Equations



The fine structure constant is 0.007 297 3.


The Attempt at a Solution



Ok I did the first part and I got l=3 basically I use the spin orbit coupling energy equation and set j= l + 1/2 and j= l-1/2 find the difference between both of them and then work out the value of 'l' knowing that the wave number is 0.0039.

What I don't understand is the second part. Do I use n=5 and l=3 and do the same thing?

Thanks.
 
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Yup, except this time you're talking about an electron in lithium instead of hydrogen.
 
vela said:
Yup, except this time you're talking about an electron in lithium instead of hydrogen.

So I first need to find the reduced electron mass of doubly ionized lithium. Then using this I can find the Rydberg constant for Lithium, and then I can actually get the difference in wave number?

I got a value of 0.3133 cm^-1 ..which seemed much bigger than that for Hydrogen.
 
Did you take into account the different charge of the nucleus?
 
vela said:
Did you take into account the different charge of the nucleus?

Yes, I took this into account when calculating the reduced electron mass of Lithium and also when calculating the difference in wave number afterwards. Is this value remotely incorrect?
 
I don't understand what you mean by that. The charge of the nucleus doesn't have anything to do with calculating the reduced mass of the electron. Are you referring to the mass of the nucleus? I'm talking about the electric charge.
 
Oh ok! I think I know where I've gone wrong. When calculating the reduced electron mass I used:

5(m_e).7(m_n)/[5(m_e) + 7(m_n)]

But I don't think this is so..
 

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