Solving the Bessel Equation: Find Solutions & Justify

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The discussion revolves around solving the Bessel equation, specifically a transformed version of it using the substitution \( x = t^2 \). Participants are exploring the general solution and particular solutions under specified conditions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply the substitution to reformulate the Bessel equation and considers using the Frobenius method. Some participants suggest multiplying the equation by \( x^2 \) to align it with known forms of the Bessel equation.
  • Questions arise regarding the definition and behavior of the second solution \( Y_{\nu} \) at \( x = 0 \), particularly its divergence and implications for boundary conditions.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing guidance on how to handle the boundary conditions. There is recognition of the need to ensure that solutions remain finite at specific points, particularly at \( x = 0 \).

Contextual Notes

There is an emphasis on the behavior of the solutions at the boundaries, particularly the condition \( y(0) = 5 \) and the implications of \( Y_0 \) diverging at \( x = 0 \). The transformation \( x = t^2 \) is also a critical aspect of the problem setup.

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Hi there. I'm working with the Bessel equation, and I have this problem. It says:
a) Given the equation
[tex]\frac{d^2y}{dt^2}+\frac{1}{t}\frac{dy}{dt}+4t^2y(t)=0[/tex]
Use the substitution [tex]x=t^2[/tex] to find the general solution

b) Find the particular solution that verifies [tex]y(0)=5[/tex]
c) Does any solution accomplish [tex]y'(0)=2[/tex]? Justify.

Well, so what I did is:
[tex]x=t^2 \rightarrow t=\sqrt{x}[/tex]
[tex]\frac{dy}{dt}=\frac{dy}{dx}\frac{dx}{dt}=\frac{dy}{dx}2t[/tex]
[tex]\frac{d^2y}{dt^2}=\frac{d^2y}{dx^2}4t^2+2\frac{dy}{dx}=4x\frac{d^2y}{dx^2}+2\frac{dy}{dx}[/tex]

Then [tex]\frac{d^2y}{dt^2}+\frac{1}{t}\frac{dy}{dt}+4t^2y(t)=\frac{d^2y}{dx^2}+\frac{1}{x}\frac{dy}{dx}+y(x)=0[/tex]

Now I'm not pretty sure what I should do to solve this. I thought of using Frobenius, would that be right?
 
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Have you solved the Bessel equation

x2y'' + xy' +(x2-n2)y =0

in class, with its solutions Jn(x) and Yn(x)? If you multilply your equation by x2 it looks like that with n = 0.

If so, that would save you some work. Otherwise, yes, multiply it by x2 and do a series solution.
 
Yes, you're right. Thanks.
 
I have that one solution would be [tex]J_{\nu},\nu=0[/tex] but I'm not to sure about the other linear independent solution, cause if I use [tex]Y_{\nu}=\frac{\cos \nu\pi J_{\nu}-J_{-\nu}}{\sin \nu\pi}[/tex] I got that [tex]Y_{0}=\frac{\cos 0\pi J_0-J_{-0}}{\sin 0\pi}[/tex] which is not defined, right?

I'm sorry, is the first time I'm working with this, probably I'm committing a really stupid mistake.

It still no clear how is that [tex]Y_0[/tex] is well defined, but anyway, I've accepted that it is, and tried to go on. But now the problem asks me to evaluate my solution, which is: [tex]y(x)=C_1J_0+C_2Y_0[/tex] in zero, which is: [tex]y(0)=C_1J_0(0)+C_2Y_0(0)[/tex] to verify the condition, and the thing is that the function [tex]Y_{\nu}[/tex] goes to -infinity in x=0, right? how should I proceed?
 
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Telemachus said:
But now the problem asks me to evaluate my solution, which is: [tex]y(x)=C_1J_0+C_2Y_0[/tex] in zero, which is: [tex]y(0)=C_1J_0(0)+C_2Y_0(0)[/tex] to verify the condition, and the thing is that the function [tex]Y_{\nu}[/tex] goes to -infinity in x=0, right? how should I proceed?

Your boundary condition that y(0) be finite tells you that C2 must be zero because, as you have noted, Y0(x) blows up at x = 0.

Don't forget that x = t2 when you back substitute. I think if you look at the series for J0 you will see how to pick C1 to satisfy the first boundary condition. Then use the series to answer the second question.
 
Thanks :)
 

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