Solving the Confusing Units Issue in Atomic Energy V(R)

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The discussion focuses on converting the second derivative of the potential energy function V(R) in atomic units to SI units. The expression V''(R) represents the harmonic force constant, which should be expressed in J/m². Participants highlight the confusion surrounding the appropriate conversion factors needed when transitioning from atomic units (bohrs and hartrees) to SI units. The key takeaway is that the conversion involves understanding the relationship between these units and applying the correct factors to achieve consistent results.

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Okay, so I have an expression for V(R) in atomic units (bohrs, hartrees, etc), where V is an energy. I'm assuming this means that if I plug in a value for R (in bohrs), I get back an energy (in hartrees). But if I take the SECOND derivative of V with respect to R, and I want to convert that to SI units, what sort of conversion factors do I need to bring out, and when?

For example, if I just take V''(R), leaving everything in atomic units, and plug in R (in bohrs), I get a number...but what units is it in? How would I convert that number to its SI equivalent, which is J/m^2?

Of course, V''(R) = d^2 V / dR^2 is supposed to be a (harmonic) force constant, which in SI would be measured in J/m^2. But I've tried a number of different approaches to doing the right sort of conversions, but each one gives me a (wildly) different answer.
 
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