Solving the Discontinuity of y=sqrt(25-x^2)

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The discussion revolves around the piecewise function defined by y = sqrt(25-x^2) for -5

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are questioning the continuity and differentiability of the piecewise function at x = 0, and how that affects its status as a solution to the differential equation. Some are suggesting that the original poster clarify the problem statement and initial conditions to better understand the context.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights into the requirements for solutions to the differential equation, particularly focusing on continuity and differentiability. There is a recognition that the piecewise function fails to meet these criteria at x = 0, which is a point of contention in the discussion.

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Participants note that the general solution of the differential equation dy/dx = -x/y is y = +/-sqrt(C - x^2), and that an initial condition is necessary to determine the specific solution. The lack of explicit initial conditions in the original poster's query is highlighted as a potential gap in understanding.

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Homework Statement


y = sqrt(25-x^2) -5<x<0
y = -sqrt(25-x^2) 0=<x<5

dy/dx= -x/y

Why is this not a solution on(-5,5) when...

y = sqrt(25-x^2)
y = -sqrt(25-x^2)
are solutions? kinda confused...

Could someone explain to me step by step how to solve this...I spent an hour trying to understand what they are asking for and solving the problem...haven't gotten anywhere
 
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vipertongn said:

Homework Statement


y = sqrt(25-x^2) -5<x<0
y = -sqrt(25-x^2) 0=<x<5

dy/dx= -x/y

Why is this not a solution on(-5,5) when...

y = sqrt(25-x^2)
y = -sqrt(25-x^2)
are solutions? kinda confused...

Could someone explain to me step by step how to solve this...I spent an hour trying to understand what they are asking for and solving the problem...haven't gotten anywhere

I'm confused as well, you didn't state a problem. Are you trying to show that

dy/dx = -x/y

is satisfied by the given equations? If so, it's very straightforward... differentiate (implicitly) the given equations and you can see it has the same form.
 


I want to know why it isn't a solution in that piecewise combination
 


vipertongn said:

Homework Statement


y = sqrt(25-x^2) -5<x<0
y = -sqrt(25-x^2) 0=<x<5
The function above isn't continuous at x = 0.
vipertongn said:
dy/dx= -x/y

Why is this not a solution on(-5,5) when...

y = sqrt(25-x^2)
y = -sqrt(25-x^2)
are solutions? kinda confused...
You're leaving out some information, it seems. The general solution of the DE dy/dx = -x/y is y = +/-sqrt(C - x^2). An initial condition, which you don't include, would enable you to solve for C, and determine which square root is the unique solution.
vipertongn said:
Could someone explain to me step by step how to solve this...I spent an hour trying to understand what they are asking for and solving the problem...haven't gotten anywhere
Please give us the exact wording of the problem, and we can go from there.
 


this is what it exactly says... that
y=phi1(x)=sqrt(25-x^2) and y=phi2(z)=-sqrt(25=x^2) are solutions of dy/dx=-x/y on the interval (-5,5). nd explain why the piece wise solution

y = sqrt(25-x^2) -5<x<0
y = -sqrt(25-x^2) 0=<x<5

isn't a solution of the DE on the interval (-5,5)
 


Any solution of the diff. equation has to be differentiable at every point in the open interval (-5, 5). Your piecewise-defined function is neither continuous nor differentiable at x = 0. The two functions phi1(x) and phi2(x) are continuous and differentiable at every point of (-5, 5).
 

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