Solving the Equation cos (x)=-0.8

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The discussion revolves around finding all solutions to the equation cos(x) = -0.8 within the interval [0, 6π]. Participants explore various methods for solving the equation, including the use of degrees and radians, and the implications of their chosen approaches.

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  • One participant presents a method using degrees to find solutions, calculating angles of 143° and 217° and converting them to radians.
  • Another participant suggests using the symmetry of the cosine function and the inverse cosine function to find solutions in radians, providing specific numerical approximations for the angles.
  • Some participants question the initial approach of using degrees, arguing that it leads to inaccuracies and suggesting that calculations should be performed in radians for better precision.
  • A later reply discusses the rounding of angles and the potential for discrepancies when converting between degrees and radians, emphasizing the importance of maintaining accuracy in calculations.
  • There is mention of visualizing the angles on the unit circle to understand where the cosine value is negative, indicating the relevant quadrants for the solutions.

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Participants express disagreement regarding the use of degrees versus radians, with some advocating for the latter for accuracy. There is no consensus on the best approach, and multiple methods are presented without resolution.

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Some participants note the potential for confusion when switching between degrees and radians, and the importance of being precise with decimal values when calculating angles. There is also a discussion about the implications of rounding in the context of the solutions.

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Hi all,just wondering if someone could cast an eye over this,

find all the solutions to the following equation at intervals 0,6$\pi$

cos (x)= -0.8

= $143^{\circ}$

my answer by using the quadrant chart

= 180$^{\circ}$-143$^{\circ}$= $37^{\circ}$

= 180$^{\circ}$ + 37$^{\circ}$ = 217$^{\circ}$

so

= $143^{\circ}$ x $\pi$ / 180

= 143$\pi$ / 180
+2$\pi$= 503$\pi$ / 180
+2$\pi$ = 863$\pi$ / 180

and the 2nd set of solutions

=217$^{\circ}$ x $\pi$ / 180

=217 $\pi$ / 180
+2$\pi$=577 $\pi$ /180
+2$\pi$ =937$\pi$ /180

I was wondering about my answers as the fraction figures seem very large
 
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I would look at the symmetry of the solutions about $x=2k\pi$ where $k\in\mathbb{Z}$ to write:

$$x=2k\pi\pm\arccos\left(-\frac{4}{5}\right)$$

And so on the given interval, we find:

$$x=0+\arccos\left(-\frac{4}{5}\right)\approx2.498091544796509$$

$$x=2\pi-\arccos\left(-\frac{4}{5}\right)\approx3.7850937623830774$$

$$x=2\pi+\arccos\left(-\frac{4}{5}\right)\approx8.781276851976095$$

$$x=4\pi-\arccos\left(-\frac{4}{5}\right)\approx10.068279069562664$$

$$x=4\pi+\arccos\left(-\frac{4}{5}\right)\approx15.064462159155681$$

$$x=6\pi-\arccos\left(-\frac{4}{5}\right)\approx16.35146437674225$$
 
fordy2707 said:
Hi all,just wondering if someone could cast an eye over this,

find all the solutions to the following equation at intervals 0,6$\pi$

cos (x)= -0.8

= $143^{\circ}$
To begin with this says that "cos(x)= $143^{\circ}$" which is nonsense. You mean to say "x= $143^{\circ}$" although I would say that was incorrect because x is clearly supposed to be in radians, not degrees. And, of course, "143 degrees" is not correct because it does not include the decimal part. x is approximately $143^{\circ}$ though that is not a very good approximation.

[/tex]my answer by using the quadrant chart

= 180$^{\circ}$-143$^{\circ}$= $37^{\circ}$

= 180$^{\circ}$ + 37$^{\circ}$ = 217$^{\circ}$

so

= $143^{\circ}$ x $\pi$ / 180

= 143$\pi$ / 180
+2$\pi$= 503$\pi$ / 180
+2$\pi$ = 863$\pi$ / 180

and the 2nd set of solutions

=217$^{\circ}$ x $\pi$ / 180

=217 $\pi$ / 180
+2$\pi$=577 $\pi$ /180
+2$\pi$ =937$\pi$ /180

I was wondering about my answers as the fraction figures seem very large
937/180= 5.2055... which is less than 6 and you were asked about values less that $6\pi$.

However, I would have set my calculator to radian measure to begin with. Is there any reason you took this "detour" through degrees? You would get a much more accurate answer since you just ignored the decimal part of the degree measure.
 
HallsofIvy said:
To begin with this says that "cos(x)= $143^{\circ}$" which is nonsense. You mean to say "x= $143^{\circ}$" although I would say that was incorrect because x is clearly supposed to be in radians, not degrees. And, of course, "143 degrees" is not correct because it does not include the decimal part. x is approximately $143^{\circ}$ though that is not a very good approximation.937/180= 5.2055... which is less than 6 and you were asked about values less that $6\pi$.

However, I would have set my calculator to radian measure to begin with. Is there any reason you took this "detour" through degrees? You would get a much more accurate answer since you just ignored the decimal part of the degree measure.

I see ,its just the way I was shown ,

I thought 143.1301024 would be rounded up to 143 degrees is this not correct ?

$\frac{143\pi}{180}$ = 2.49582083

and 143.1301024 x $\pi$ = 449.6564782 and when divided by 180 to get radians =2.498091546 would It not be deemed at the same answer when rounded up to 2.5 for example

can you show me how you would have gone about this ? thanks
 
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fordy2707 said:
can you show me how you would have gone about this ? thanks

first, it helps to visualize the two angles between $0$ and $2\pi$ where the cosine value is $-0.8$

Note that angles with a negative value for cosine are in quadrants II and III. In the attached diagram, the terminal sides of angles $\theta$ and $\phi$ intersect the unit circle at $x = -0.8$

The inverse cosine function on your calculator will yield angle values in quadrant I for positive values of cosine, and in quadrant II for negative values of cosine. So, if you type $\cos^{-1}(-0.8)$ into your calculator (in radian mode), the calculator will output $\approx 2.4981$ radians, which is the radian measure for angle $\theta$ in the diagram. You may want to use the "store" feature of your calculator to keep the more accurate approximate value.

To get angle $\phi$ in quadrant III, calculate $2\pi - \cos^{-1}(-0.8) \approx 3.7851$ radians

Now all you have to do is add $2\pi$ and $4\pi$ to both $\theta$ and $\phi$ to get all six angles in the interval $(0,6\pi)$ where the cosine's value is $-0.8$View attachment 5953
 

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