Solving the F16 Jet Fighter Turning Circle Puzzle

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The discussion focuses on solving two physics problems related to circular motion and the turning circle of an F16 jet fighter. For the first problem, participants clarify the definitions of speed and velocity, emphasizing that average velocity is displacement over time and that change in velocity is the difference between final and initial velocities. The second problem involves calculating the bank angle required for an F16 flying at 650 meters per second with a turning radius of 80 km, with the correct answer being 28.3 degrees. Key insights include the importance of understanding the distinction between distance and displacement in circular motion.

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  • Circular motion concepts
  • Understanding of speed vs. velocity
  • Basic trigonometry for angle calculations
  • Physics of forces acting on an aircraft
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  • Study the equations of circular motion, specifically a = (v^2)/r and v = wr
  • Learn about the relationship between distance and displacement in physics
  • Explore the physics of banking turns in aviation
  • Investigate the dynamics of forces acting on an aircraft during maneuvers
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Aerospace engineers, physics students, and anyone interested in understanding the dynamics of circular motion and aircraft maneuvering techniques.

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Question 1.

Homework Statement



The question shows a circle labeled as follows
-A at the uppermost point
-B at the most-right point
-C at the lowest point
-D at the most-left point

so, the length along the circle from A to B (and B to C, C to D, D to A) is one quarter of the circumference.

There is a particle traveling along this circle at constant speed, and completes one revolution in 5.0seconds.

a) average speed for one revolution
b) average speed from A to B
c) average velocity for one revolution
d) average velocity from A to C
e) average velocity from A to B
f) change in velocity from A to C
g) change in velocity from A to B


Homework Equations



a = (v^2)/r
v = wr


The Attempt at a Solution



I thought I understood circular motion and the definitions for speed and velocity until I came upon this question :(


a) Well, speed is velocity without a direction, but when something is moving around a circle, it's direction is constantly changing so I'm unsure how to go about this question

b) same problem as (a)

c) I thought this to be zero, since it returns to its original displacement but I'm not sure if it is asking for angular or linear... are definitions different? Or if it isn't mentioned, is it normally linear?

d) and e) same problem as (c)

f)&g) thought acceleration was just (v^2)/r... I'm not sure thought because they ask from one place to another, not around the entire circle.



Question 2..


Homework Statement



The turning circle of an F16 jet fighter when flying at a constant speed of 650 metres per second, has a radius of 80km. What is the angle of bank the plane must make to achieve this manoeuvre? (The angular tilt of its wings)


The Attempt at a Solution



I.. have no idea. The answer says 28.3 degrees, and I tried finding the angle using the velocity in one direction and acceleration perpendicular to it, with trig, but it comes out as 0.47 degrees (way too low)


That's it for now I guess >_>

Thanks ^^
 
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a&b) the question said "constant speed". You just need the length of the path traveled divided by the speed.

c-e) average velocity is displacement/time. It's a vector with an x and y component.

f&g) change in velocity is (final velocity) - (initial velocity)
 
Yeah Willem2 has it spot on. look up the difference between distance and displacement,it's critical to problem 1. Problem one seems to be a insight into definitions.

For Problem 2, you need to understand, why does the F16 need to bank? what does it achieve by banking? Its taking a turn right? why doesn't a car need to bank in order to make a turn? - Once you figure those out - Draw a diagram with the forces. and remember gravity is always down... straight down. While lift is perpendicular to the F16.
 

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