Solving the Initial value problem

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The discussion revolves around solving an initial value problem involving a system of differential equations: dx/dt = x + y and dy/dt = x + y + e^t, with initial conditions x(0) = 0 and y(0) = 1. Participants are exploring methods to approach the problem and the implications of their attempts.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss transforming variables, specifically suggesting the substitution of x + y. There is also mention of deriving a second-order equation from the original system and questioning the next steps after reaching a particular solution.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on finding particular and homogeneous solutions, while others are exploring the implications of their derived equations. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being considered, and there is an ongoing exchange of ideas without explicit consensus.

Contextual Notes

There is uncertainty regarding the appropriate method to solve the equations, particularly in distinguishing between homogeneous and non-homogeneous solutions. Participants are also navigating the constraints of the initial value problem and the requirements of the homework context.

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Homework Statement



dx/ dt = x + y
dy/ dt = x + y + et
x(0) = 0 y(0) = 1.

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution

x'' = x' + y' = x' + x + y + et
x'' - 2x' = 0
y = x' - x
 
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hi chen0000! welcome to pf! :smile:
chen0000 said:
dx/ dt = x + y
dy/ dt = x + y + et
x(0) = 0 y(0) = 1.

the obvious way to start would be by changing one of the variables to x+y :wink:
 
well I'm not sure if we're supposed to do it like this but I remember something about
x" = x' + y' = x' + x + y + e^t
and then we have x'' - 2x' = 0 and y = x' - x, but that's for homogeneous, and i don't know where to go from there.
 
chen0000 said:
… then we have x'' - 2x' = 0 and y = x' - x

ok, solve x'' - 2x' = et first …

what do you get? :smile:
 
x'' - 2x' = e^t
X(t) = Ae^t
(A-2A)e^t = e^t
-A = 1
A = -1
X(t) = - e^t ?
 
hi chen0000! :smile:

(just got up :zzz: …)
chen0000 said:
x'' - 2x' = e^t
X(t) = Ae^t
(A-2A)e^t = e^t
-A = 1
A = -1
X(t) = - e^t ?

(try using the X2 icon just above the Reply box :wink:)

yes, that's a good particular solution :smile:

now find the homogenous solution (ie the general solution to the homogenous equation x'' - 2x = 0) to add to that :wink:
 

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